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beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« on: February 20, 2024, 04:47:15 PM »
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level 19 beguiler, no spellslot gear

on a beguiler with access to 9th circle, in the metamagic 7-8-9 radial menu no spells above 7th circle are displayed. everything is displayed fine in the spell book

Spoiler: spellbook • show

Spoiler: silent spell • show


Spoiler: extend spell • show


Spoiler: still spell • show


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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2024, 05:19:23 PM »
In my case it is completely broken. All Metamagic radials are completely empty.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2024, 06:16:58 PM »


Interestingly, metamagic spells that were saved in quick slots can still be cast -- it's purely the radial that is broken.

This is no work around unfortunately because it's impossible to put metamagic spells in quick slots in the first place right now.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2024, 06:19:05 PM »
.... Actually it's not just metamagic spells.

ALL spells are unavailable for me through the radial menu.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2024, 06:21:57 PM »
Confirmed on my 2nd Beguiler, all spells missing from radial menu.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2024, 06:29:28 PM »
Nevermind, fixed most the above issues listed by upgrading to the .36 build... XD


I can now confirm -- it's only level 7+ spells that aren't in the metamagic radials. Ethereal Jaunt, Improved Invisibility Sphere, etc.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2024, 06:29:54 PM »
Do make sure you're on the latest stable.  Seems they beat me to posting :D

For me I have the beguiler spells on radial on the latest stable (but not the patch before - recall NWN was patched recently too) - but I can replicate having problems with metamagic.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2024, 06:30:26 PM »
On the test server, the metamagic spells are available on newly created beguilers. Solution may be a remake
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2024, 06:34:07 PM »
Should we start approaching the DM team for remakes?
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2024, 06:35:07 PM »
Should we start approaching the DM team for remakes?

No wait, until further tests are done.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2024, 09:14:47 AM »
I would need a warmage or beguiler volunteer impacted by the issue to use the @relevel command in-game to check if the action of leveling up fixes the issue. Thank you.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2024, 12:28:25 PM »
I can volunteer a Beguiler for this but would need DM support to reset the relevel command.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2024, 03:28:56 PM »
Attempted a relevel of a single level (level 20); that failed.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2024, 05:49:53 PM »
Attempted a relevel of a single level (level 20); that failed.

Thank you, please reach out to a DM to try with a full remake.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2024, 08:08:25 PM »
Remake from lvl 14 didn't work. EO suggests it could be a Beamdog bug with the new autospell feature.

There is actually a work around though: you can drag-and-drop metamagic spells from your spellbook to the quick bar to be able to cast them. It's not perfect but it's at least not a complete loss of functionality for higher level metamagic.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2024, 08:19:58 PM »
I've reported the issue to the EE developers. In the meantime, as mentioned, you can slide them from your spellbook to your quickbar.

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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2024, 08:44:13 PM »
Remake from lvl 14 didn't work. EO suggests it could be a Beamdog bug with the new autospell feature.

There is actually a work around though: you can drag-and-drop metamagic spells from your spellbook to the quick bar to be able to cast them. It's not perfect but it's at least not a complete loss of functionality for higher level metamagic.

Was it a remake or a relevel? I do not have these issues with a brand new beguiler on the test server.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2024, 11:22:24 PM »
Relevel, sorry.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2024, 11:27:45 PM »
Relevel, sorry.

Yeah we knew that didn't work already. Try with a full remake please.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2024, 03:15:05 AM »
I made a fresh warmage on the test server, and it's still missing the metamagics through the radial, even if the spellbook menu list metamagics are there.

So I don't think a remake from scratch is going to fix it. If the radial was fully showing for the developers when they were testing it, there's a discrepancy between our game files and yours, maybe.

Empower spell is restricted to level 5 spells and below, extend spell was restricted to level 6 spells and below. Maximise not showing anything higher than maximised level 4 spells.




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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2024, 05:05:24 AM »
Curious if people have tried putting on metamagic giving items and see if there is any change? Cant test this myself.

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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2024, 07:47:11 AM »
It does not work with the items on either.
Anyway, at this time it's pretty clear it is a Beamdog side issue, a ticket has already been open. We can only hope it will get resilved eventually.

At least a workaround has been identified in the meantime.
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Re: beguiler metamagic 8-9 missing
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2024, 02:47:56 PM »
FYI this bug will be fixed in the next Beamdog patch.