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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2023, 04:18:15 PM »
What about the transparency to see those whom erroneously report others? I desire to be shown any report made against me, unredacted.

IMO, the ideal is that if you are found to be in the wrong, a DM comes to you and asks what's up and you get to talk things over with them. Depending on the infraction of course. I would wager the vast majority of infractions are relatively minor and can be resolved with a calm chat and they probably are.

Knowing you've been reported, even obfuscating the date, can put you in tribalism mode and make you start going thru your list of recents, wondering who did it. That takes you out of the game completely and can escalate matters.

I would say a report that's outright wrong and meant to frame you is along the same lines of a rulebreak so it can't really be made public. But that's in the DM team's wheelhouse to clarify.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2023, 04:26:50 PM »
What about the transparency to see those whom erroneously report others? I desire to be shown any report made against me, unredacted.

IMO, the ideal is that if you are found to be in the wrong, a DM comes to you and asks what's up and you get to talk things over with them. Depending on the infraction of course. I would wager the vast majority of infractions are relatively minor and can be resolved with a calm chat and they probably are.

Knowing you've been reported, even obfuscating the date, can put you in tribalism mode and make you start going thru your list of recents, wondering who did it. That takes you out of the game completely and can escalate matters.

I would say a report that's outright wrong and meant to frame you is along the same lines of a rulebreak so it can't really be made public. But that's in the DM team's wheelhouse to clarify.

That same rational can be applied to those seeking the results of their reports.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2023, 04:28:18 PM »
Pretty much. I think a total upheaval risks disaster. This community has been around for too long to just turn around on the spot like that.

If the staff wants a ticket system they can easily punch data into then I'm sure that much will go over well, but there's only so much that can be changed as far as player-facing systems.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2023, 04:54:53 PM »
You know, there used to be a time when we just enjoyed the server and had a good time.. now it seems any minor infraction is reported and people get marks on thier account..

Yes, MAJOR infractions should be reported to remove unwanted accounts.. Cybersex, cyberbullying, etc.. but it seems now way too much...

Can we please go back to enjoying this great server, and having a good time, not causing stress on normally excellent players and characters.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2023, 08:05:11 PM »
What about the transparency to see those whom erroneously report others? I desire to be shown any report made against me, unredacted.

IMO, the ideal is that if you are found to be in the wrong, a DM comes to you and asks what's up and you get to talk things over with them. Depending on the infraction of course. I would wager the vast majority of infractions are relatively minor and can be resolved with a calm chat and they probably are.

Knowing you've been reported, even obfuscating the date, can put you in tribalism mode and make you start going thru your list of recents, wondering who did it. That takes you out of the game completely and can escalate matters.

I would say a report that's outright wrong and meant to frame you is along the same lines of a rulebreak so it can't really be made public. But that's in the DM team's wheelhouse to clarify.

That same rational can be applied to those seeking the results of their reports.

The system, as is, is better for us all.

Having been contacted by a DM recently because of some crude stuff I have said on Discord, I can say you -are- being told when you have been reported for poor conduct. Though it usually is just a "slap on the wrist" unless you do it again. But is it the case for In Game misconduct? (And I mean misconduct, not outright Rule Breaking like Cyberbullying)
But as Zeppelin said, it would be great if the Major Infractions were the main focus of reports and the Staff Policing. Then again... Sexual Harassment qualifies as "OOC issues between players" apparently.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2023, 08:36:54 PM »
What about the transparency to see those whom erroneously report others? I desire to be shown any report made against me, unredacted.

IMO, the ideal is that if you are found to be in the wrong, a DM comes to you and asks what's up and you get to talk things over with them. Depending on the infraction of course. I would wager the vast majority of infractions are relatively minor and can be resolved with a calm chat and they probably are.

Knowing you've been reported, even obfuscating the date, can put you in tribalism mode and make you start going thru your list of recents, wondering who did it. That takes you out of the game completely and can escalate matters.

I would say a report that's outright wrong and meant to frame you is along the same lines of a rulebreak so it can't really be made public. But that's in the DM team's wheelhouse to clarify.

That same rational can be applied to those seeking the results of their reports.

The system, as is, is better for us all.

Having been contacted by a DM recently because of some crude stuff I have said on Discord, I can say you -are- being told when you have been reported for poor conduct. Though it usually is just a "slap on the wrist" unless you do it again. But is it the case for In Game misconduct? (And I mean misconduct, not outright Rule Breaking like Cyberbullying)
But as Zeppelin said, it would be great if the Major Infractions were the main focus of reports and the Staff Policing. Then again... Sexual Harassment qualifies as "OOC issues between players" apparently.

Currently, generally, unless you do a big nono you get warnings first. A verbal one as your first, a written one as your second and last. Beyond that you're getting into potential suspension territory. You get -some- feedback on if you did something wrong, but it tends to still be vague. Still something you can discuss or bring up with the respective DM that addresses you, however.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2023, 09:25:17 PM »
What about the transparency to see those whom erroneously report others? I desire to be shown any report made against me, unredacted.

IMO, the ideal is that if you are found to be in the wrong, a DM comes to you and asks what's up and you get to talk things over with them. Depending on the infraction of course. I would wager the vast majority of infractions are relatively minor and can be resolved with a calm chat and they probably are.

Knowing you've been reported, even obfuscating the date, can put you in tribalism mode and make you start going thru your list of recents, wondering who did it. That takes you out of the game completely and can escalate matters.

I would say a report that's outright wrong and meant to frame you is along the same lines of a rulebreak so it can't really be made public. But that's in the DM team's wheelhouse to clarify.

That same rational can be applied to those seeking the results of their reports.

The system, as is, is better for us all.

Having been contacted by a DM recently because of some crude stuff I have said on Discord, I can say you -are- being told when you have been reported for poor conduct. Though it usually is just a "slap on the wrist" unless you do it again. But is it the case for In Game misconduct? (And I mean misconduct, not outright Rule Breaking like Cyberbullying)
But as Zeppelin said, it would be great if the Major Infractions were the main focus of reports and the Staff Policing. Then again... Sexual Harassment qualifies as "OOC issues between players" apparently.

Currently, generally, unless you do a big nono you get warnings first. A verbal one as your first, a written one as your second and last. Beyond that you're getting into potential suspension territory. You get -some- feedback on if you did something wrong, but it tends to still be vague. Still something you can discuss or bring up with the respective DM that addresses you, however.

I think there in lies the problem.. we are all here to have fun.. there are individuals who go out of there way to report people for minor infractions... especially when it comes to PVP logging, people have lives, sometimes our internet goes down, some have to go to work etc... there are individuals on here who go out of their way report these things ..... and marks are generated against others accounts...  personally.. if this happens to me... i would just say.. "whatever" and leave it be, i find it petty.. but i KNOW personally it causes and has caused great players to leave the server... i really don't think this is what Blue envisioned when he started this...  Do we really want a totalitarianism system that drives players away?  I don't know... and i find it ironic that the the original poserl wants to remain anonymous while calling out his fellow players, interesting.....

Whatever... lets again just all have fun and enjoy what a fabulous, amazing and enjoyable server this is...

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #82 on: September 20, 2023, 09:33:48 PM »
What about the transparency to see those whom erroneously report others? I desire to be shown any report made against me, unredacted.

IMO, the ideal is that if you are found to be in the wrong, a DM comes to you and asks what's up and you get to talk things over with them. Depending on the infraction of course. I would wager the vast majority of infractions are relatively minor and can be resolved with a calm chat and they probably are.

Knowing you've been reported, even obfuscating the date, can put you in tribalism mode and make you start going thru your list of recents, wondering who did it. That takes you out of the game completely and can escalate matters.

I would say a report that's outright wrong and meant to frame you is along the same lines of a rulebreak so it can't really be made public. But that's in the DM team's wheelhouse to clarify.

That same rational can be applied to those seeking the results of their reports.

The system, as is, is better for us all.

Having been contacted by a DM recently because of some crude stuff I have said on Discord, I can say you -are- being told when you have been reported for poor conduct. Though it usually is just a "slap on the wrist" unless you do it again. But is it the case for In Game misconduct? (And I mean misconduct, not outright Rule Breaking like Cyberbullying)
But as Zeppelin said, it would be great if the Major Infractions were the main focus of reports and the Staff Policing. Then again... Sexual Harassment qualifies as "OOC issues between players" apparently.

Currently, generally, unless you do a big nono you get warnings first. A verbal one as your first, a written one as your second and last. Beyond that you're getting into potential suspension territory. You get -some- feedback on if you did something wrong, but it tends to still be vague. Still something you can discuss or bring up with the respective DM that addresses you, however.

And how long do these infractions last for those of who have been on the server for almost 18 years?

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #83 on: September 20, 2023, 10:34:09 PM »
Not getting a response back from the DM Team is definitely frustrating. We try to message people to let them know when we've received and posted their reports, so if you don't get an answer back reach out again. Alternatively, the CC can see our OOC boards. I'm certain the player Reps would be happy to confirm with you if your report was posted, although our confidentiality policy means they can't tell you details beyond that.

Not a perfect system by any stretch, but there's two ways of navigating the imperfections to verify your report is being looked at.

The confidentiality policy is exactly what creates mistrust in the system, I imagine. I've always been told my reports have been reported, but even when it's been serious cases and with serious evidence, most of the time I will never be informed of the consequences and if something actually happened regarding a problem, basically needing to hear it from social circles to get a conclusion to something that'd likely affected you.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #84 on: September 20, 2023, 10:50:04 PM »
The confidentiality policy is exactly what creates mistrust in the system, I imagine. I've always been told my reports have been reported, but even when it's been serious cases and with serious evidence, most of the time I will never be informed of the consequences and if something actually happened regarding a problem, basically needing to hear it from social circles to get a conclusion to something that'd likely affected you.

The crazy thing is that it gets leaked in the first place despite the confidentiality policy, but I guess it's only natural that not all leaks make the news.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #85 on: September 20, 2023, 11:00:17 PM »
The confidentiality policy is exactly what creates mistrust in the system, I imagine. I've always been told my reports have been reported, but even when it's been serious cases and with serious evidence, most of the time I will never be informed of the consequences and if something actually happened regarding a problem, basically needing to hear it from social circles to get a conclusion to something that'd likely affected you.

You're absolutely right that it contributes to some distrust; I'd argue there's several reasons for distrust among the community at large but that's probably another ten topics. That said, the loss of the potential trust increased transparency might bring is part of the math on how we administer the server's system of rules & punishment, and ultimately in how we try to correct player behavior. The risks of naming/shaming/feeding into the rumor mill are just not worth the perceived costs.

Were this a civil institution, I'd argue for greater transparency, myself, but it's not. It's not particularly fun to see people blatantly lie about their behavior and be unable to set the record straight according to my own perceptions, but it's part of the voluntary gig. I'm content to know that ultimately people far more invested in the server than I am have had to weigh this balance and make the final determination on it for more than a decade, so I respect and uphold the policy to the best of my ability.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #86 on: September 20, 2023, 11:35:27 PM »
The confidentiality policy is exactly what creates mistrust in the system, I imagine. I've always been told my reports have been reported, but even when it's been serious cases and with serious evidence, most of the time I will never be informed of the consequences and if something actually happened regarding a problem, basically needing to hear it from social circles to get a conclusion to something that'd likely affected you.

You're absolutely right that it contributes to some distrust; I'd argue there's several reasons for distrust among the community at large but that's probably another ten topics. That said, the loss of the potential trust increased transparency might bring is part of the math on how we administer the server's system of rules & punishment, and ultimately in how we try to correct player behavior. The risks of naming/shaming/feeding into the rumor mill are just not worth the perceived costs.

Were this a civil institution, I'd argue for greater transparency, myself, but it's not. It's not particularly fun to see people blatantly lie about their behavior and be unable to set the record straight according to my own perceptions, but it's part of the voluntary gig. I'm content to know that ultimately people far more invested in the server than I am have had to weigh this balance and make the final determination on it for more than a decade, so I respect and uphold the policy to the best of my ability.

But we are all here to have a break from reality.. a time to have fun, enjoy ourselves and build friendships..... this is in my biased opinion, not furthering these goals...

Why is there distrust at all.. this is a game... a great one.. and a great server.. why are why doing this to each other....... (with the exception on trolls, cyberstalkers, etc..)....

There are numerous players who are not having "fun" due to what these rules are...

again.. i don't know. maybe another server or game is what i need. but i love it here... been here since the beginning....sucks  that we are having these  types of conversastions in my opinion..





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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #87 on: September 20, 2023, 11:50:39 PM »
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I would argue as I always have that you don't need the forums whatsoever.

PotM is ingame, not here. Not even the IC-oriented posts need to mean anything for you. Anyone who minds the rules and respects other players has nothing to worry about.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #88 on: September 21, 2023, 12:17:51 AM »
In my opinion there needs to be more communication between players and whoever it is that decides on disciplinary rulings. Recently I have had to both inside and outside the bounds of the server to get a resolution on a problem that I had. It is in my opinion, I think the best way to solve this problem would be a disciplinary committee of 1-3 people with extensive unbiased opinions, empathy training, and great understanding of the server rules is what we need(Though I realize this is easier said then done). And have realization that some people report things just because either they can or because they have a grudge or whatever may be the case. There needs to be a filter and not a he said she said system. Screenshots are a great way to provide evidence to peoples arguments and reports, but sometimes they are taken out of context and don't paint the whole picture of the story. With that I don't think naming/shaming a player/account is the way to go about it. People are entitled to their privacy, and these matters should not be openly discussed/disclosed just for peoples 2 cents or enjoyment of entertaining. This is supposed to be a server where people should have fun and not feel like they're walking on egg shells to enjoy it.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #89 on: September 21, 2023, 01:03:00 AM »
The only functional difference I see in the former and latter is that the latter is handled, or at least started, in game. Nifty, granted, but I fail to see how it will solve anything related to trust. Also assuming that it cannot be used to attach screenshots, it transfers that step of the process on to the receiving DM to reach out. The variables change a little along the way, but the end result is the same, the same work is being done. I would suggest that if your report doesn't receive a reply to the tune of "Thank you for reporting this, I will pass it along", then you poke the person again, or simply send it to a second. A simple poke is often all that's needed to make sure the thing doesn't fall through a crack. Also discord is usually easier than the forums on the sender, if not the receiver.

I think you'll find if people have a way to report something happened where it's happening at the moment it's happening, you're going to have both more accurate reports (instead of "this is how I remember it"), and people more inclined to report (granted, that can be a double-edged sword.)

You're right, it does put the onus on the DM to respond, but that is a direct response to myself and others whom have not had them respond.  It should not be my responsibility, as someone that is reporting and not the person who can do about it, to chase these things up.  To me what you're suggesting seems comparable to telling me that if the cops don't come fast enough when someone's being murdered I should call again.  Yes, I probably should, but by the time we've reached that point, we have another issue as well.

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Moreover, a ticket system can be something any DM or administrator can respond to, not something that you throw at 1-4 DMs and hope one of them gets it.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #90 on: September 21, 2023, 01:20:22 AM »
I don't want the staff to feel pressured by the will of the majority, that is an easy system for cliques to mass report the players they don't like.

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« Reply #91 on: September 21, 2023, 01:39:43 AM »
You know, there used to be a time when we just enjoyed the server and had a good time.. now it seems any minor infraction is reported and people get marks on thier account..

Yes, MAJOR infractions should be reported to remove unwanted accounts.. Cybersex, cyberbullying, etc.. but it seems now way too much...

Can we please go back to enjoying this great server, and having a good time, not causing stress on normally excellent players and characters.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #92 on: September 21, 2023, 04:32:56 AM »
^

I would argue as I always have that you don't need the forums whatsoever.

PotM is ingame, not here. Not even the IC-oriented posts need to mean anything for you. Anyone who minds the rules and respects other players has nothing to worry about.

I second this, as it totally reflects my experience too. There is a non-negligible portion of the player base that do not even look at the forums and gets along fine (myself included up until quite recently).

I'm also very much on board with what Lev is saying, I'm not pedantic enough to report every perceived rule-break I come across. In fact, I didn't feel the need to make a single report in my ~3 years thus far. It would take some legit harassment or hounding for me to take that step. The way I handle players that ruin my experience can be described in stages of escalation:

1.) Avoid the person.
2.) Send a tell to the player describing my gripe and try and solve the issue with them.
3.) If no satisfactory conclusion I'd probably continue my avoidance strategy where possible, if not I would likely start the report process.

I can count on one hand how often I had to take it to escalation stage 2 and found each one of those people understanding or at the very least willing to compromise on a solution that suits the both of us. Like said, it never actually got to stage 3. Then again, I don't get myself wrapped up in many plots/factions because my sporadic time constraints would just force me to let people down.

I get that it's not always possible to just 'sort it out among yourselves' when you're wrapped up in plots/factions where these conflicts are more likely to occur, so I get the necessity of an effective report system. --BUT, what I'm reading between the lines here, is that apparently we have such a large volume of reports coming in, that people argue we need a ticket system to handle these efficiently. It really begs the question for me, do people speak to each other and say: "Hey, you're doing xyz and that infringes against the rules/ruins my immersion/crosses a line for me. Could you stop that please?" before they take screenshots and file a report? Perhaps this is me just being stupid/blind, but I seriously can't imagine that (if people actually respectfully spoke to one another to try and solve the issue before resorting to reporting) there would be such a vast report volume that would warrant an urgent need for these proposed reporting systems.

I'm (perhaps naively) of the opinion that resources would be better invested in working on other things.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #93 on: September 21, 2023, 04:48:53 AM »
In my opinion there needs to be more communication between players and whoever it is that decides on disciplinary rulings. Recently I have had to both inside and outside the bounds of the server to get a resolution on a problem that I had. It is in my opinion, I think the best way to solve this problem would be a disciplinary committee of 1-3 people with extensive unbiased opinions, empathy training, and great understanding of the server rules is what we need(Though I realize this is easier said then done). And have realization that some people report things just because either they can or because they have a grudge or whatever may be the case. There needs to be a filter and not a he said she said system. Screenshots are a great way to provide evidence to peoples arguments and reports, but sometimes they are taken out of context and don't paint the whole picture of the story. With that I don't think naming/shaming a player/account is the way to go about it. People are entitled to their privacy, and these matters should not be openly discussed/disclosed just for peoples 2 cents or enjoyment of entertaining. This is supposed to be a server where people should have fun and not feel like they're walking on egg shells to enjoy it.

Agree with you completely. Sometimes all it takes is a courteous reply and explanation. But, sadly we live in a time where folks are quick on thr trigger or gonout of their way to be petty. Its best to know who you trust and don't.  Those you csn communicate with and leave others behind and ignore them.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #94 on: September 21, 2023, 08:03:42 AM »
PotM is ingame, not here. Not even the IC-oriented posts need to mean anything for you. Anyone who minds the rules and respects other players has nothing to worry about.

Unfortunately for several factions there is an expectation to post here, so if you get involved in faction play, you will be expected to look at the forums.  Garda logbooks, for instance.

But this is also why I argue the reporting methods, whatever form it should take, should be in game.  By the mere virtue of taking it outside of the game will you lose people whom are frustrated about rulebreaks.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #95 on: September 21, 2023, 02:11:54 PM »
PotM is ingame, not here. Not even the IC-oriented posts need to mean anything for you. Anyone who minds the rules and respects other players has nothing to worry about.

Unfortunately for several factions there is an expectation to post here, so if you get involved in faction play, you will be expected to look at the forums.

Yeah not to take it off-topic, but the forums represent IC information and have an effect on the in-game world as well. You're expected to use them and to comply with what they do. I know some people don't use them one bit but as pointed out, those people won't be in factions and the like then, denying themselves aspects of the server, not aware of bounty postings, becoming an (A)MPC etc.

As it pertains to this post. I think people need to understand that the usage of the forums is 1:1 with the server itself. You're assumed to have an account because they're simply linked to a lot of the server's ongoings. Transparency can be delivered in a discord message, in-game or just as much on here and that should be understood and respected.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #96 on: September 21, 2023, 03:54:31 PM »
You can apply for anything that requires an application, be aware of events and bounties, handle faction forums etc. without using the forums for anything more than that.

That said, most players do not apply for anything, are not interested in bounties they don't hear about IC, do not participate in factions, and typically find out about events ingame.
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« Reply #97 on: September 21, 2023, 09:40:29 PM »
You can apply for anything that requires an application, be aware of events and bounties, handle faction forums etc. without using the forums for anything more than that.

That said, most players do not apply for anything, are not interested in bounties they don't hear about IC, do not participate in factions, and typically find out about events ingame.


That latter argument is purely anecdotal.  It is not a statement of fact without evidence to back it up.

The forums are also one of the few remaining resources for information about the setting as it is played and off of the histories that it uses.  It is also the source of information of what is expected as a various AMPC or race or background as well, with access to things like the gazetteers far more difficult than it was ten or so years ago.

If people are refusing to use the forums and then getting in trouble, that is on them and not the responsibility of others.  The resource is there to be used and it is required to be used to play.  You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.  At the same time, that does not make the forums useless to the very many people who make use of both it and the discord and other matters.  I've been in enough factions to see how useful it is.  But accommodating people who won't make effort to use the available resource and then moving to change things to suit them is completely counter-productive.  Such people are already proving by their deeds that they won't reward efforts made on their behalf to give them a helpful resource.

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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #98 on: September 21, 2023, 10:04:14 PM »
All of this information on the setting, rules, etc. can be accessed entirely without engaging in the discussions here. I posted in response to someone who finds it frustrating that we even have to talk about all this stuff in the first place.

This isn't about people getting in trouble. Not a single one of these discussion threads requires a response, or even a glance, really.
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Re: Fostering a Stronger, More Transparent Community: A Thoughtful Proposal
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2023, 03:19:35 AM »
Which is why I said in my post to stop caring. It's unlikely anyone is going to care about your suggestion that someone asked several months ago. If you want something changed, apply to be on staff. I have several suggestions that I want to tell the staff and other players but I just know it wouldn't be listen to. So yeah, stop caring so much to put up all these threads and suggestions and just play the game. Report or don't report. Maybe something will happen, maybe not. If someone is harassing you or disrupting your roleplay just ignore it. This is volunteer work after all for a video game after all. It's not that serious.
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