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Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« on: August 07, 2023, 07:50:46 PM »
Or maybe a restless "rest" mode to update xp/level up, something that doesn't give you b

I can't even rest to level up and it's causing me to get reduced xp gains.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2023, 09:06:16 PM by BigRobot43 »

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Re: can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2023, 07:58:15 PM »
If you mean you are acquiring enough EXP that will level you up beyond what you require, you still keep all that EXP. You can store enough to level up twice even.
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Re: can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2023, 08:00:51 PM »
If that has ever been a system I've never been aware of it, and we've had people hold onto several levels before in the past before leveling up. The only thing that should be affect your EXP gain is that having that next level available to you counts you as being that level for EXP gain. So if you're level 2 but you're able to level up to level 3, all your gains are counted as if you're level 3 regardless.
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Re: can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2023, 08:08:51 PM »
If someone banked 18 levels I wish to shake their hand and commend their god-tier level patience for remaining level two for months or years on end. But honestly, I don’t think that has ever happened.

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Re: can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2023, 08:32:22 PM »
1 week is not nearly enough to bank up to level 20. I've never heard of any system where xp is affected by banked levels, because such a system would have zero reason to exist. I think you may be misunderstanding some other system at play if you have that impression.

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Re: can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2023, 08:51:30 PM »
I once leveled from 2-20 without taking any levels in between, deathless, no gear.
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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2023, 10:42:12 PM »
If that's true, I am deeply concerned.
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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2023, 03:29:20 AM »
There is a minor reduction if you have banked XP, If it follows the default NWN coding on this but it should be minor enough to largely ignore.
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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2023, 08:41:46 AM »
My understanding of our system is that it counts your level as what it works be based off your total XP regardless of taking the levels or banking them, and that's it. No extra penalties or benefits baked in. Same with the buffer; it uses the level you have earned to figure out what it should be.


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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2023, 11:02:21 AM »
I'd be very interested in the accuracy about this from a Dev or Dm 100% in the know. I have a character that I've been banking lvls with in the pursuit of RP requirements for a PrC. With the recent vault update for the test server, I logged this character in, and leveled them up. They got only a single level (nearly 100% they have far exceeded the XP for more than 1) and were placed at trivial to the next level and placed on the hard cap for the XP gain.

Insights as to the particulars here would be very useful, as he's fallen far behind his RP group in ability while pursuing the PrC and if the XP is just gone into the ether, it really diminishes desire and ability to continue forward.

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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2023, 11:10:24 AM »
I can say, by personal tests, that there is a limit to how much xp you can gain while banking levels.
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Re: can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2023, 12:52:34 PM »
If that has ever been a system I've never been aware of it, and we've had people hold onto several levels before in the past before leveling up. The only thing that should be affect your EXP gain is that having that next level available to you counts you as being that level for EXP gain. So if you're level 2 but you're able to level up to level 3, all your gains are counted as if you're level 3 regardless.

My experience (har har) has been the opposite. As someone with a character who is very deeply level banked, I am not even sure how many levels at this point-

 I noticed situations where I suddenly stopped receiving xp from certain creatures immediately after a single level up, even though in the grand picture of things my overall total level from banked XP was the same before and after.

My impression of it is that the system does not even look at your excess XP, but rather treats you as whatever level you choose to stay at.

I'm pretty sure my char has to be at least level 13 by now technically but they do not receive minor RP XP messages.
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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2023, 08:48:36 PM »
Or maybe a restless "rest" mode to update xp/level up, something that doesn't give you b

I can't even rest to level up and it's causing me to get reduced xp gains.

I'll be quite frank that the moon madness is something you signed on for when choosing to play a half-Vistani. The bad part comes with the good ones. You are expected to have chosen this race for its roleplay value and therefore it should not matter to wait a few hours before levelling up. The XP you would lose in between is very marginal at best. 3 in-game days per month is about 10% of in-game time. Unless you are extremely unlucky, it won't be the full moon every time you have to level up. Yes it can happen, but that is no reason to change the setup. It is working as intended.
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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2023, 08:58:30 PM »
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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2023, 09:04:31 PM »
I have a half-Vistani character.  This has never been an issue for me.  I can't imagine being able to level bank much in the less than 8 real life hours it takes to make it through your 3 in-game days of moon madness.  I still play during my moon-madness phase, and enjoy the unique nature of the RP, but I've never had any pressing urgency to actually level up in that timeframe - not getting that one extra level right away doesn't stop me from playing or enjoying the content.  Not being able to rest and replenish spells and health is a greater impediment than not being able to level up, but that is what I signed up for when I picked the background.


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Re: Can we have Vistani moon madness rest during the day
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2023, 11:02:13 PM »
When determining the amount of XP a character receives, the level cap, etc., the system takes into account banked levels and banked XP, so "sitting" on a level doesn't help levelling faster.

As for the original request, being unable to rest for those three days is a feature of the Half-Vistani. We don't plan to change it either. But rest assured it doesn't penalize your XP gains.