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End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« on: January 21, 2023, 01:08:14 PM »
So, I've been noticing this for some time, but the Vistani (and other merchante) vanish some items when no one is around.

Today I was going to buy an item I wanted, my net went kaputz, and when I logged back, the item was gone (alongside with many others).

This is notoriously selective (bracers of the scorpion, cardona's shackles, spell scrolls, etc.) and is kinda annoying: you cannot even go withdraw money and get back (not to mention crashing).

Also, let's not forget that it is a fertile ground for OOCing, asking people to buy an item because you know that the vistani will take out of expostion the item they are exposing if they are left alone.
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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2023, 01:13:56 PM »
This is done to reduce lag so we have no plans to change it.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2023, 01:14:53 PM »
God no. Unless there's a way to make it selective, I'd much rather it eat items than store them in perpetuity. Page upon page of tarnished wedding bands is already bad enough.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2023, 01:19:00 PM »
I do like it when it just fills up with pages and pages of Tarnished Wedding Bands.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2023, 01:41:49 PM »
This is done to reduce lag so we have no plans to change it.

Is there, at least, a way of allowing at least one item of each kind? Ok that you don't need pages of wedding bands, but clearing useful items hurts.
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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2023, 01:45:44 PM »
This is done to reduce lag so we have no plans to change it.

Is there, at least, a way of allowing at least one item of each kind? Ok that you don't need pages of wedding bands, but clearing useful items hurts.

It only cleans items below a certain value, so these items aren't rare. And no, there's no way to keep one of each, that'd just be a performance nightmare.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2023, 04:52:52 PM »
The Cardona's Trick Shackles are immensely useful with their spell property, but the shop value states it as 1, so that's likely why it disappeared.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2023, 04:56:20 PM »
dont remember their properties, but arent they associated with a scalable spell? maybe one charge has gone off, and their value has gone down...


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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2023, 04:58:11 PM »
I sold a recently picked one for 1 gold because the character I had didn't have UMD, identified. It's definitely just a one gold item. Did it yesterday, in fact. I was surprised it was that low myself.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2023, 06:03:51 PM »
Maybe we should make a list of valuable items that needs to be corrected from 1gp

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2023, 06:42:15 PM »
Maybe we should make a list of valuable items that needs to be corrected from 1gp

This, yes, but there are some valuables that disapear like the scorpion bracers. They are not cheap and disappear.
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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2023, 06:45:20 PM »
Maybe we should make a list of valuable items that needs to be corrected from 1gp

This, yes, but there are some valuables that disapear like the scorpion bracers. They are not cheap and disappear.

It's ok that items disappear from there. It drives more player economy this way. If there's an item like that you're after, let other PC's know and someone is bound to go and find you one.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2023, 07:07:03 PM »
I do like it when it just fills up with pages and pages of Tarnished Wedding Bands.

And full plates. <3

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2023, 08:51:14 PM »
if the merchant sells the stuff that gets deleted (as in it's added to the shop via the toolset) then no other instances of it are ever added to the store in game no matter how many are sold by players.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2023, 12:31:29 PM »
This is done to reduce lag so we have no plans to change it.

Is there, at least, a way of allowing at least one item of each kind? Ok that you don't need pages of wedding bands, but clearing useful items hurts.

It only cleans items below a certain value, so these items aren't rare. And no, there's no way to keep one of each, that'd just be a performance nightmare.

Necroing this because I just ran from Barovia to the Mist Camp to see all the items I wanted from the Vistani Vanishing.

And not only cheap items: Staff of Scientific Wizardry, belt of wraith, etc. All gone.

Wanna clear the cheap tarnished rigns, ok. But clearing the good itens too is evil, specially when we cannot know what will be cleared and what not.
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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2023, 02:24:08 PM »
This is done to reduce lag so we have no plans to change it.

Is there, at least, a way of allowing at least one item of each kind? Ok that you don't need pages of wedding bands, but clearing useful items hurts.

It only cleans items below a certain value, so these items aren't rare. And no, there's no way to keep one of each, that'd just be a performance nightmare.

Necroing this because I just ran from Barovia to the Mist Camp to see all the items I wanted from the Vistani Vanishing.

And not only cheap items: Staff of Scientific Wizardry, belt of wraith, etc. All gone.

Wanna clear the cheap tarnished rigns, ok. But clearing the good itens too is evil, specially when we cannot know what will be cleared and what not.

I mean they also could have just been bought.

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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2023, 04:22:12 PM »
In all likelihood someone else bought them by the time you got back there as stated by myrddraal. That staff and belt have values higher than the threshold for the script. We can (and will) doublecheck the script, but to the best of our knowledge it is still working as intended.
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Re: End, or at least reduce, the Vistani merchant item vanish.
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2023, 05:55:35 PM »
In all likelihood someone else bought them by the time you got back there as stated by myrddraal. That staff and belt have values higher than the threshold for the script. We can (and will) doublecheck the script, but to the best of our knowledge it is still working as intended.

Thanks, MAB.

I find it strange that two staffs at 13k would have been bought and one quarterstaff not.
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