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Warlock - Eldritch Blast Shape & Essences
« on: December 27, 2022, 03:05:09 PM »
So as per the following wiki article;

Sickening Blast

"Note that unlike other variations of warlock, this spell can't be paired with eldritch blast shapes."

Which implies that Blast Shapes and Essences can otherwise be combined as per PnP allowances. However, having only just unlocked both Chain and Beshadowed Blast, there's no sign that you can combine any Shapes and Essences at all; other Warlock players have said they weren't even aware that this was how it was meant to function.

As shown here, the spell list shows both a Blast Shape and Blast Essence, but no option to combine them.



Assuming we're using the 3.x implementation onwards, Warlock Eldritch Blast should be able to benefit from both a Shape and an Essence, one of each, both able to be combined. Examples being Eldritch Chain + Vitriolic Blast, Eldritch Cone + Beshadowed Blast, etc.


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Re: Warlock - Eldritch Blast Shape & Essences
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2022, 03:08:37 PM »
Unfortunately, it's a limitation with NWN. In order to make shapes and essences work with one another, you have to make an entirely different spell for each blast shape and essence combination.

Metamagic still works, my guy.

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Re: Warlock - Eldritch Blast Shape & Essences
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2022, 03:19:39 PM »
Not a bug, so moving to Fixed.

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Re: Warlock - Eldritch Blast Shape & Essences
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2022, 03:29:00 PM »
Unfortunately, it's a limitation with NWN. In order to make shapes and essences work with one another, you have to make an entirely different spell for each blast shape and essence combination.

Metamagic still works, my guy.

So create a new spell for each possible combination of shapes and essences. There's an abundance of room in the spellbook for it.

Not a bug, so moving to Fixed.

This is one of the core components of how Warlock functions and it doesn't work as it should. If it's not feasible to actually implement how it should work, the differences should be made extremely clear because currently there's at least one Warlock Essence that implies that Blasts and Essences can be combined.
« Last Edit: December 27, 2022, 04:19:22 PM by Grendel »

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Re: Warlock - Eldritch Blast Shape & Essences
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2022, 03:30:26 PM »
That wiki entry, like most really, is not written by the POTM staff. That line you quoted isn't from the in-game description. You can edit it out if you feel it's misleading.

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Re: Warlock - Eldritch Blast Shape & Essences
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2023, 10:48:17 PM »
Make all sense, transform the essences in a buff and add a script in the shapes to check if the buff is activated, adding the effect to the invocation. I can help with the solution case you allow me.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2023, 12:31:38 PM by fullgazz »