Monk PRC options

[EO]

In that instance, since its outside of that order, then I would apply the Ex-Monk rules where they CAN multiclass but can no longer progress as a monk, but will retain their monk abilities (If this were a different D&D game). http://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/monk/index.html

In this instance a grimetrekker being a type of fallen monk could be quite thematic and a potential story hook in the right hands.

If not for the relevel crystal this would be a decent approach, but with the relevel crystal it's easy to rearrange a monk's build so the PrC (or other class) levels always end up towards the end of the build.

[Bouquet of Lotuses]

Is that still possible with the latest relevel crystal change?

[EO]

Is that still possible with the latest relevel crystal change?

Yes, with hak updates as an example.

[BraveSirRobin]

In that instance, since its outside of that order, then I would apply the Ex-Monk rules where they CAN multiclass but can no longer progress as a monk, but will retain their monk abilities (If this were a different D&D game). http://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/monk/index.html

In this instance a grimetrekker being a type of fallen monk could be quite thematic and a potential story hook in the right hands.

If not for the relevel crystal this would be a decent approach, but with the relevel crystal it's easy to rearrange a monk's build so the PrC (or other class) levels always end up towards the end of the build.

To be fair, if they could take Grimetrekker at-will, it would be the same result, anyways. Level 12 monk, then Grimetrekker the rest of the way.

[Iolantir]

In that instance, since its outside of that order, then I would apply the Ex-Monk rules where they CAN multiclass but can no longer progress as a monk, but will retain their monk abilities (If this were a different D&D game). http://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/monk/index.html

In this instance a grimetrekker being a type of fallen monk could be quite thematic and a potential story hook in the right hands.

If not for the relevel crystal this would be a decent approach, but with the relevel crystal it's easy to rearrange a monk's build so the PrC (or other class) levels always end up towards the end of the build.

To be fair, if they could take Grimetrekker at-will, it would be the same result, anyways. Level 12 monk, then Grimetrekker the rest of the way.

This would go against the "no more than 10 apart" rule though.

For the record, I do wish monks could be grimetrekkers.

[William Roberts]

PRC prerequisites necessitate that they tend toward the end of the build, regardless of the re-level crystal.

Monks would have to have eight levels under their belt before first level of Grimetrekker (+6 BAB). Ten levels for Divine Champ (+7 BAB).

[BraveSirRobin]

In that instance, since its outside of that order, then I would apply the Ex-Monk rules where they CAN multiclass but can no longer progress as a monk, but will retain their monk abilities (If this were a different D&D game). http://dnd.arkalseif.info/classes/monk/index.html

In this instance a grimetrekker being a type of fallen monk could be quite thematic and a potential story hook in the right hands.

If not for the relevel crystal this would be a decent approach, but with the relevel crystal it's easy to rearrange a monk's build so the PrC (or other class) levels always end up towards the end of the build.

To be fair, if they could take Grimetrekker at-will, it would be the same result, anyways. Level 12 monk, then Grimetrekker the rest of the way.

This would go against the "no more than 10 apart" rule though.

For the record, I do wish monks could be grimetrekkers.

I guess that's true. Does that leveling rule still apply with the unregulated PrC's?

[Freydaelyn]

I would assume so BSR. Even if you are going two base classes you can not be 18 in one and 2 in the other

[EO]

I would assume so BSR. Even if you are going two base classes you can not be 18 in one and 2 in the other

Indeed, you're right; the multiclassing rules apply to all classes, PrCs included.

[Bouquet of Lotuses]

I would assume so BSR. Even if you are going two base classes you can not be 18 in one and 2 in the other

Indeed, you're right; the multiclassing rules apply to all classes, PrCs included.

Does the 5 minimum prc levels still apply to unregulated prcs as well?

[EO]

Yes. I encourage everyone to read the rules.

[BraveSirRobin]

I would assume so BSR. Even if you are going two base classes you can not be 18 in one and 2 in the other

Indeed, you're right; the multiclassing rules apply to all classes, PrCs included.

Does the 5 minimum prc levels still apply to unregulated prcs as well?

FYI, I never said 18-2, I said 12-8, which if you take Grimetrekker at the appropriate levels, is possible. However, it is only possible in the event that you do not become an ex-Monk and lose the ability to progress in Monk levels, because you would have to take a Grimetrekker level at level 11 to avoid the 10-level difference rule. That's why when you roll a 5 Rogue 15 Fighter build, you can't just slap Rogue at the end of it and call it a day (besides the fact that's worse for your SP pool).

[Bouquet of Lotuses]

I would assume so BSR. Even if you are going two base classes you can not be 18 in one and 2 in the other

Indeed, you're right; the multiclassing rules apply to all classes, PrCs included.

Does the 5 minimum prc levels still apply to unregulated prcs as well?

FYI, I never said 18-2, I said 12-8, which if you take Grimetrekker at the appropriate levels, is possible. However, it is only possible in the event that you do not become an ex-Monk and lose the ability to progress in Monk levels, because you would have to take a Grimetrekker level at level 11 to avoid the 10-level difference rule. That's why when you roll a 5 Rogue 15 Fighter build, you can't just slap Rogue at the end of it and call it a day (besides the fact that's worse for your SP pool).

I wasn't asking in reference to your specific example.

The rules state that five levels of a prc must be taken by level twenty. With three total classes it would be possible to meet the 10 apart rule while breaking the five minimum rule. Thus my question.

EO, I don't think anyone here is asking because we don't read the rules, the opposite: people are curious if the lack of regulation means some rules still apply.

[Yesper]

The gated apps being removed would not change any existing rules. I don't see how there would be any confusion here.

[Bouquet of Lotuses]

It's just a question.