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20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« on: February 03, 2007, 09:46:43 AM »
Just curious... how will 20th level monks be handled within the game system - specifically with regards to the effects of "Perfect Self" ..

Will the character just be forced into the "Outsiders" faction and be hostile to all ?

In addition,  I was reading in the 3.0 rule book for RL something about a "reality bubble" that surrounds a 20th level monk that effectively makes its own walking/sitting space its own domain - sounding almost like some kind of "globe of invulnerability" - and he is able to traverse closed domain borders at will, etc.

Since there are two monk characters who are getting close to that 20th level (mine and Robert Archers) i was curious as to what the powers that be would be doing as far as game and setting mechanics.   Specifically, with regards to the glowing eyes, perfect self, and Ravenloft's interpretation of the perfect self effect.

(And of course, this isn't an invitiation for some to chime in with "Well, don't you worry - Maynard and Dragrin will never live to see level 20, evil snarl and grin). :D







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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2007, 11:28:13 AM »
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(And of course, this isn't an invitiation for some to chime in with "Well, don't you worry - Maynard and Dragrin will never live to see level 20, evil snarl and grin).

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2007, 01:36:40 PM »
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(And of course, this isn't an invitiation for some to chime in with "Well, don't you worry - Maynard and Dragrin will never live to see level 20, evil snarl and grin).

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anyhow curious myself as how this will work out any info would be nice :)

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2007, 01:42:31 PM »
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(And of course, this isn't an invitiation for some to chime in with "Well, don't you worry - Maynard and Dragrin will never live to see level 20, evil snarl and grin).

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anyhow curious myself as how this will work out any info would be nice :)

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 01:48:34 PM »
I'm sure the Count will get to you, right after he gets to all those other 20th levels and such running around.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2007, 02:39:23 PM »
If not, Vicho eventually will...teehee.
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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2007, 02:46:46 PM »
If not, Vicho eventually will...teehee.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2007, 02:52:28 PM »
There's no real way to duplicate the effects of a reality wrinkle in the NWN engine. Basically a reality wrinkle is the outsider's strong moral alignment affecting the fabric of the demiplane. The demiplane is reactive towards evil, so those of strong evil or good alignment who are inside the demiplane warp the demiplanar fabric around them, acting almost as if they have their own domain floating about them, suspending the existing domain's "rules" in a radius around the outsider.

We didn't plan on changing the factions for 20th level monks, so I assume you'll still be whatever faction you are.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2007, 04:30:31 PM »
But wear a hood to cover those glowy eyes. Or, do Monks not really get glowy eyes?

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2007, 04:33:21 PM »
Could give level 20 monks a slightly higher OR due to that, maybe add 2-3 to their OR for the glowy eyes.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2007, 04:35:00 PM »
Hood wont help I'm afraid. The hood just takes on glowing eyes the color of whatever alignment the person is.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2007, 04:38:13 PM »
Monk should have an ECL of 1... that'd fix the problem heh



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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2007, 04:42:35 PM »
I like the OR adjustment idea. Could be done manually since there are so few monks that high level.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2007, 04:47:28 PM »
It's pretty easy to script too, either way. :)

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2007, 05:25:27 PM »
What's an OR?
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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2007, 05:26:21 PM »
Outcast rating..the higher it is, the less you are liked in Barovia. Past a certain point, NPC's flatout attack you or run in fear screaming.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2007, 05:55:56 PM »
That all works for me.. .assuming I make it that far.   A few points to the OR is reasonable and sensical due to the xenophobia of the populace anyway.   

"Hi, I'm Maynard the friendly monk" <shimmer of eye>" 

"Holy fscking sh!t ... a witch"  and the dude runs in horror.

Anyway - good commentary by all.  We'll see if Maynard or Dragrin makes it that far.   (And better yet, we'll see if Maynard gets fixed to get back in the game - right now, he's still broken)


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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2007, 05:59:08 PM »
the part I'm afraid of is that 20/1 DR....i mean..craps....unhurtable by nearly every monster...wait at lvl 20 you praticly are anywho

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2007, 06:00:42 PM »
+1 DR stops about nothing though.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2007, 06:17:35 PM »
I just was doing some reading on the Perfect Self ability and noticed another one that PnP monks get at Level 17:

"Tongue of Sun and Moon" - a monk at 17th level can speak with any living creature.      With all the discussion on the whole balok/luktar exclusivity, and if a language gadget was implemented, would this monk ability also be supported ?

Before I am accused of cheesing, what are the thoughts of exercising this ability from the PnP game into the NWN game?


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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2007, 06:21:47 PM »
Well, Ghostwise Halfers are PnP, yet no serious server in their right minds will have them use ''Tells'' to slide thoughts into other PC's. Likewise I would put that Monk Ability on shelf and choose not to use it.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2007, 06:23:20 PM »
Same, I view it as cheesing to use it in a PW.

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2007, 06:25:15 PM »
Fair enough... had to ask.


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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2007, 09:20:35 PM »
well...monks are "perfect" right?

can't they turn off their glowy eyes when they encounter people? or just flash it when they feel the time is right? can't they aslo turn on and off their sphere of influence?

or they have no power over their power?

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Re: 20th Level Monks and Ravenloft
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2007, 11:15:09 PM »
well...monks are "perfect" right?

can't they turn off their glowy eyes when they encounter people? or just flash it when they feel the time is right? can't they aslo turn on and off their sphere of influence?

or they have no power over their power?
no, once they acheive that state they are transformed. it can't be turned off.

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