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Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« on: May 09, 2020, 12:57:38 AM »
Where: I've testing Flurry of Blows Atk bonus both activated and deactivated. In the combat log and the character sheet Flurry of Blows always gives a -2/-2 regardless of Monk level.

When: At level 3 when it supposed to be 0/0 it was -2/-2 and the same for level 4 when it should have been +1/+1. When you level up it will work properly for a time. After re-logging later I noticed it reverted back to -2/-2 again. Sadly I have not been able to level up much for further testing... I am still suffering a -2/-2 if I use Flurry though.

What: Above. Mixed with "When". Not much more to tell between when and Recreating it. Will do what I can to help out when I get more information on it myself. Next level up I will be sure to do testing...though I am not close to doing so.

Recreate: It is not something that goes away often. Comes back when re-logging. Similar to Goggles of Night helm for Dark Vision only working after you equip it and re-log. I will get a clip of the bug in the next day or 2 so I can hopefully help out with it in some way. Sadly, I have work Saturday so may be unable to get it done.

Ideas: Honestly, I can't come up with any ideas. This is my first public server and I have not been around very long yet so am not a high level. Have been unable to test theories myself.

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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2020, 01:07:30 AM »
To my knowledge, both in PnP and in NwN, monks who use Flurry of Blows suffer a -2 penalty to attacks while it is active. This penalty does not lessen as monk levels increase. Perhaps you are more familiar with the Monk class from another server or did I misunderstand your issue?

Are you saying that your AB is constantly -2/-2 despite various buffs/stat increases?

https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Flurry_of_blows
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htm#flurryofBlows 
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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2020, 02:43:36 AM »
In 3.5 edition at level nine monk's stop suffering from the attack bonus penalty while she uses flurry of blows. Not a thing on this server though. Some time ago I made a suggestion to use 3.5 edition rules for flurry of blows, but because feat is hard-coded presently there's no way to alter it.

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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2020, 08:43:24 AM »
To my knowledge, both in PnP and in NwN, monks who use Flurry of Blows suffer a -2 penalty to attacks while it is active. This penalty does not lessen as monk levels increase. Perhaps you are more familiar with the Monk class from another server or did I misunderstand your issue?

Are you saying that your AB is constantly -2/-2 despite various buffs/stat increases?

https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Flurry_of_blows
https://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htm#flurryofBlows

I must say I am a bit confused. I can understand if it a customized thing for the Server...but Single Player follows the fandom wiki(https://nwn.fandom.com/wiki/Monk) pretty well. Changing the Flurry of Blows AB per level as it is listed. Oddly enough, however, the same Flurry of Blows AB changes are found here(https://nwnravenloft.fandom.com/wiki/Monk) on the Ravenloft wiki as well.

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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2020, 08:58:36 AM »
I dont see anything that mentions Flurry of Blows actually -increasing- your AB. That would infact be broken. Giving up -2 AB for an extra attack per round is exactly what the feat does and always has done.
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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2020, 09:09:15 AM »


So I think what Knowballs is talking about is the above image.  They're not saying flurry of blows should be giving them ab when active, they're referencing that it starts your character at being reduced to 2 attacks at -2 instead of one at 0 at level 1.  And by level 4, it should have progressed to 2 attacks at +1, instead of a single attack at +3.

That being said-- I've tried extensively to recreate this on a higher level monk and can't seem to make it happen.  I'd suspect you may possibly be suffering from something non-flurry of blows related reducing your ab.  Are you being cursed, doomed, stat drained, or raise sickness'd?  Try getting a restoration cast on you and try resting.  Worst case scenario, maybe get someone to subdue you and get you back up.  Alternatively maybe get a DM try and fix you if you can't seem to fix it yourself. 

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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2020, 02:44:16 PM »
Flurry of Blows always decreases your AB by 2 damage, so if your AB is 5, in Flurry of Blows mode it'll be 3. That's not a bug; it works just as intended.

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Re: Flurry of Blows -Atk bonus never increases
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2020, 04:48:38 PM »
Yup, as above. You get a -2 penalty to all attacks to be able to have an additional attack, that's what the feat does, and it is always like this.

The 'progression' you are looking at is really just a total. It's listing what your penalties and additional attacks total to after your base attack bonus, with flurry of blows applied.