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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2019, 08:08:29 PM »
Will not having the Lunatic feat be expected to have any effect on those choosing to roleplay a Half-Vistana character's Lunatio phases?

No, those are two different things.

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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2019, 10:10:25 PM »
Will not having the Lunatic feat be expected to have any effect on those choosing to roleplay a Half-Vistana character's Lunatio phases?

No, those are two different things.
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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2019, 12:32:28 AM »
Stealth is not being seen or noticed. Disguise is being seen and/or noticed but appearing to be someone else entirely. It's really not that difficult.

Its not difficult at all. Im just making a suggestion and point. I know what stealth is and what disguise means. Im asking why is it limited to certain classes? And why would druids need disguise if they can polymorph? I mean putting a ghillie mantle or dressing up in nature is technically a disguise to fool the eyes. I mean it would make sense for Rangers and druids but its only offered to druids? I admit camo was probably not a good example. Though anyone?
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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2019, 01:01:21 AM »
Should we expect any new/modified items which will bring bonus/disadvantage to the disguise skill?
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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2019, 03:09:59 AM »
My only hope that these items won't be having any additional properties that increase stealth skills along with disguise itself.

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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2019, 08:42:37 AM »
It wouldn't make much sense for items to have both disguise and stealth. An argument could be made disguise is already a form of stealth, so it would be having two of the same stat, at least to me it would. I could understand disguise, and sleight of hand, on the same item though.

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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2019, 11:13:51 AM »
I've updated the main topic with a few more changes (Back to the Wall, Assassin prerequisites, new items).

Should we expect any new/modified items which will bring bonus/disadvantage to the disguise skill?

Yes, we'll add some more items for Disguise in the treasuries.

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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2019, 11:25:43 AM »
I wonder if there will be any spells that help or counter act Disguise? Also would Shifters have anything unique with Disguise?


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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #33 on: December 21, 2019, 11:27:59 AM »
I wonder if there will be any spells that help or counter act Disguise? Also would Shifters have anything unique with Disguise?

All spells that increase your spot already will counter it. It would be nice to see some Disguise spells added, though.


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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #34 on: December 21, 2019, 11:41:50 AM »
Disguise spells are being discussed, it is likely that some will be added in due time, though will not be added in this HAK update.
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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2019, 11:41:57 AM »
They're coming. Just not immediately. It's not a question of balance; it's a question of time.
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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #36 on: December 21, 2019, 01:07:04 PM »
Its not difficult at all. Im just making a suggestion and point. I know what stealth is and what disguise means. Im asking why is it limited to certain classes? And why would druids need disguise if they can polymorph? I mean putting a ghillie mantle or dressing up in nature is technically a disguise to fool the eyes. I mean it would make sense for Rangers and druids but its only offered to druids? I admit camo was probably not a good example. Though anyone?

I think you misread the first topic; Disguise is not a Druid class skill, it's a Shifter class skill.

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Also would Shifters have anything unique with Disguise?

No, but getting it as a class skill is already pretty good.

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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #37 on: December 21, 2019, 01:21:10 PM »
No, but getting it as a class skill is already pretty good.

Hmm, alright. I figured that since their whole shtick was shifting forms, that they might have something here unique for them.

Btw who gets Disguise as a class skill?


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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2019, 01:24:09 PM »
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-Added Disguise as a class skill to the following classes: Assassin, Bard, People's Champion, Rogue, Shadowdancer, Shifter.
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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2019, 09:19:25 AM »
I forgot to include it but we also revised Shrouded Dance's requirements. The description is already updated on the test server but the prerequisites hadn't been fixed.

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Re: Detailed list of changes - Hak update 2_22
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2020, 08:46:43 PM »
Regarding firearms, I've had a chance to test the dynamics of it post-update.
Right now the best way to use a flintlock is to have a melee weapon in one hand, and fire the pistol in the off hand so you can retain Parry AC.
The alternative is to use a flintlock in the main hand and a shield in the off hand for Shield AC, and also the potential for Shield Parry.

Would it be possible to consider adapting Improved Unarmed Strike to retain Parry AC when wielding a flintlock? For the same reasons that Improved Unarmed Strike provides Parry AC while unarmed.
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