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qwertyuioppp

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Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« on: October 30, 2015, 03:00:23 AM »
Animal Empathy can apparently be used on characters affected by Baleful Polymorph, which isn't really an issue, but the Domination effect persists after the character has had their Polymorph removed. Essentially it allows for a turn / level Domination effect on anyone that can be Polymorphed.

This also apparently triggers the "Forming parties is not allowed" script when used on PCs.
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2015, 03:18:05 AM »
I can confirm.
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2015, 06:13:32 AM »
Quote from: qwerty on October 30, 2015, 03:00:23 AM
Animal Empathy can apparently be used on characters affected by Baleful Polymorph, which isn't really an issue, but the Domination effect persists after the character has had their Polymorph removed. Essentially it allows for a turn / level Domination effect on anyone that can be Polymorphed.

This also apparently triggers the "Forming parties is not allowed" script when used on PCs.

Technically the morphed victim only "starts" to lose his memories and the ability to understand languages after 24 hours. I would simply not make Animal Empathy work on them. Probably what will happen anyway. Simplest way to solve the problem.
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 08:13:46 AM »
On the new Animal Empathy, right?

It looks like at the moment it would work on a Wildshaped druid, too. You won't abuse this on Mika will you? Not until it gets fixed? Hopefully not every time you see him?
« Last Edit: October 30, 2015, 08:17:05 AM by Bad_Bud »
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 08:32:36 AM »
Yeah, the new AE. I didn't try the old one, I don't know if it works.

I will definitely not use it just on Mika. Definitely not just on Mika alone.
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2015, 08:33:49 AM »
Quote from: Bad_Bud on October 30, 2015, 08:13:46 AM
On the new Animal Empathy, right?

It looks like at the moment it would work on a Wildshaped druid, too. You won't abuse this on Mika will you? Not until it gets fixed? Hopefully not every time you see him?

Hey, hey, hey. You stop giving them ideas!
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 08:54:22 AM »
Hmm... Gonna make a cha based star elf druid with SF: empathy so that I can take advantage-I mean, practice restraint until this bug is fixed  :lol:
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 09:10:07 AM »
What is the difference between new and old AE?
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 09:31:18 AM »
Quote from: modderpunk on October 30, 2015, 09:10:07 AM
What is the difference between new and old AE?

Duration and the way it handles reputation with the animal. On the old one, sometimes you would release your animal from domination and have it immediately kill you.
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2015, 09:38:09 AM »
And both are still usable? How would i know wich one i am using?

(Never had a char with ae before but i have a druid for nce)
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Re: Animal Empathy and Baleful Polymorph
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2015, 09:43:39 AM »
One is blue and one is green. Don't use the green one.
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