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HoshaZilo

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Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« on: December 06, 2013, 07:25:17 PM »
I'm unsure if this is actually a bug, so I'm posting it here

I'm unfamiliar with how touch attack works, but it seems to me as if it should take into account either the Dex based AC or the armor based AC, or both, in this example it seems to completely ignore that I even have AC at all even without armor my character should have been able to avoid that shot but got hit.

« Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 07:27:46 PM by HoshaZilo »

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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2013, 07:51:48 PM »
I think that Hive Mother touch attack must have barely hit you, "touch AC" is 10+ dexterity/dodge bonuses.

Armor bonuses and even deflection don't affect touch attacks...If I remember correctly.  Examples of touch attacks are inflict spells and Harm spell.  This particular monster ability is a ranged touch attack... very nasty indeed.

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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 07:57:06 PM »
An attack in which the attacker must connect with an opponent but does not need to penetrate armor. Touch attacks may be either melee or ranged. The target's armor bonus, shield bonus, and natural armor bonus (including any enhancement bonuses to those values) do not apply to AC against a touch attack."

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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 09:03:29 PM »
Actually you where caught flat footed which removes your dex ac

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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2013, 11:56:58 PM »
Actually you where caught flat footed which removes your dex ac

Yep, you rolled initiative after the touch attack- so you were flat footed
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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2013, 03:17:01 PM »
Ah, okay, makes sense... so flat footed versus a touch attack makes it that the thresh hold to hit me would be just 10?

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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2013, 06:04:13 PM »
Yeah. A touch attack needs to hit the base 10+dex mod only, and flat-footed removes the dex mod as well.

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Re: Bug or my lack of knowledge?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 12:23:32 AM »
Yeah. A touch attack needs to hit the base 10+dex mod only, and flat-footed removes the dex mod as well.

10+Dex+Size+Deflection,  being flat footed makes it 10+Size+Deflection
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