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Suggestion - Listening Horn
« on: June 20, 2013, 04:47:50 PM »
Item -
Listening Horn

Properties -
Material: Brass
Amplify (5) 1 charge per use.
Charges: 40


Sugesstion-
Add item restriction "Only usable by: Bard"

Reasons-
As it stands, this item not only gives 40 charges of a +20 listen spell, but it actually lasts longer than the scroll, being a caster level of 5.  It's extremely cheap and drops quite often, and has become an easy method to boost a skill with little drawback.  This is a spell unique to the Bard class and provides an amazing bonus to listen skill.  I think 40 charges are a bit much, seeing as you don't have to meet any requirements to use it.  Making it Bard only would at least require you to invest in UMD, like use of the scroll does.

Alternative Suggestion-
Reduce the charges to something more reasonable.  Around 5-10.
Increase the price of the item, making it a bit harder to find.
Remove it entirely
« Last Edit: June 20, 2013, 05:00:12 PM by Legion XXI »

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 04:56:57 PM »
I suggest all three changes!


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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 04:58:57 PM »
Item -
Listening Horn

Properties -
Material: Brass
Amplify (5) 1 charge per use.
Charges: 40


Sugesstion-
Add item restriction "Only usable by: Bard"




Reasons-
As it stands, this item not only gives 40 charges of a +20 listen spell, but it actually lasts longer than the scroll, being a caster level of 5.  It's extremely cheap and drops quite often, and has become an easy method to boost a skill with little drawback.  This is a spell unique to the Bard class and provides an amazing bonus to listen skill.  I think 40 charges are a bit much, seeing as you don't have to meet any requirements to use it.  Making it Bard only would at least require you to invest in UMD, like use of the scroll does.

Alternative Suggestion-
Reduce the charges to something more reasonable.  Around 5-10.
Increase the price of the item, making it a bit harder to find.


I would rather just have it removed.


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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 05:01:28 PM »
Item -
Listening Horn

Properties -
Material: Brass
Amplify (5) 1 charge per use.
Charges: 40


Sugesstion-
Add item restriction "Only usable by: Bard"




Reasons-
As it stands, this item not only gives 40 charges of a +20 listen spell, but it actually lasts longer than the scroll, being a caster level of 5.  It's extremely cheap and drops quite often, and has become an easy method to boost a skill with little drawback.  This is a spell unique to the Bard class and provides an amazing bonus to listen skill.  I think 40 charges are a bit much, seeing as you don't have to meet any requirements to use it.  Making it Bard only would at least require you to invest in UMD, like use of the scroll does.

Alternative Suggestion-
Reduce the charges to something more reasonable.  Around 5-10.
Increase the price of the item, making it a bit harder to find.


I would rather just have it removed.

I added that to the list, though I'm trying baby steps here.  I'm all for a compromise.

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 05:01:41 PM »
true, removing it might be the best idea. Bards already can take the spell anyways.


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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 05:04:50 PM »
true, removing it might be the best idea. Bards already can take the spell anyways.

Exactly my point.


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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 05:15:48 PM »
I would rather just have it removed.

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 06:22:51 PM »
Even Troukk, POTM's official defender of detection, agrees with this.
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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 06:25:07 PM »
Even Troukk, POTM's unofficial defender of detection, agrees with this.

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 also: nerf those listening horns .

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2013, 09:00:55 PM »
The only reason the item was made was because it was in the Item Request thread:

Listening Horn (Wand/Torch/Equippable, whatever works)



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Cast Spell: Amplify (5) 5 Charges/Use

40 Charges

Total Cost: 676
Item added - DM Blue

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2013, 09:12:43 PM »
The only reason the item was made was because it was in the Item Request thread:

Listening Horn (Wand/Torch/Equippable, whatever works)



"SPEAK UP, WILL YOU?"

Cast Spell: Amplify (5) 5 Charges/Use

40 Charges

Total Cost: 676
Item added - DM Blue



Aprogressivist, eh?  Direct all "I hate Listening Horn" PMs to Anistacia Rotfurt!!!!

Lol, in all seriousness though...  the quote there says "5 charges/use", and currently the one in game is 1 charge/use.  That turns what was intended to be 8 casts into 40 casts.

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2013, 09:15:10 PM »
The only reason the item was made was because it was in the Item Request thread:

Listening Horn (Wand/Torch/Equippable, whatever works)



"SPEAK UP, WILL YOU?"

Cast Spell: Amplify (5) 5 Charges/Use

40 Charges

Total Cost: 676
Item added - DM Blue



Aprogressivist, eh?  Direct all "I hate Listening Horn" PMs to Anistacia Rotfurt!!!!

Lol, in all seriousness though...  the quote there says "5 charges/use", and currently the one in game is 1 charge/use.  That turns what was intended to be 8 casts into 40 casts.
That was because we lowered the gp value of spell casting items after the item was made and at 5 charges a use it became ridiculously cheap, so I had to raise it to 1 charge/use to raise the gp cost.

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2013, 03:39:51 AM »
Well, I think the moral of this story is that the players should use the "Item Request - Discussion" topic more.   Personally, I never really checked it much outside of a few key items that I'd watch the progress on.  Now, though...  Oh now I'm bookmarking that baby.   :lol:

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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2013, 12:45:46 PM »
Well, I think the moral of this story is that the players should use the "Item Request - Discussion" topic more.   Personally, I never really checked it much outside of a few key items that I'd watch the progress on.  Now, though...  Oh now I'm bookmarking that baby.   :lol:
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Re: Suggestion - Listening Horn
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2013, 02:13:58 PM »
@blue: can items be removed from the loot tables, namelly in this case the listening horn?