Incoming System: Risk of raised rising as undead

[Gorasin]

Can you make the undead stronger based on char level to get the real pnp feel?

[Shadowthrone]

Can you make the undead stronger based on char level to get the real pnp feel?

They have the same HD as the animated person so that's already happening.

[Darktide18]

Guess its best to be careful too if your raising a high level PC you'd be sure to have a heck of a fight on your hands.   

[kanedellesk]

I love this idea, can't wait to see it happen. Of course, naturally, when it happens to me I'm gonna whine and complain like a small child with a mosquito bite.

[peluscious]

The risen undead uses the PC equipment?
What happens to the ghost? I guess it would be cool if the player was stuck in the zombie.

[vlowe72]

The risen undead uses the PC equipment?
What happens to the ghost? I guess it would be cool if the player was stuck in the zombie.

That would be awesome... except I can see a bit of an exploit, as people would be pvp ing people, raising them, killing the zombies and taking their uber equipment.

Newly raised zombies wouldn't have any of the feats to use most of the equipment anyway.

[LawfulJoe]

Can an evil priest command the undead created from a fallen PC? Basicly giving them a large HD pet?

[Inviktus]

The risen undead uses the PC equipment?
What happens to the ghost? I guess it would be cool if the player was stuck in the zombie.

That would be awesome... except I can see a bit of an exploit, as people would be pvp ing people, raising them, killing the zombies and taking their uber equipment.

Newly raised zombies wouldn't have any of the feats to use most of the equipment anyway.

I think they should have undroppable versions of every item from the character's "paper doll" section at the top, the equipped items.

Also, the type of undead should be variable, with it preferencing the type of undead particular to the location.  IE, the Sullen Woods should produce shadows or shadow fiends.

[marlewebber]

Can an evil priest command the undead created from a fallen PC? Basicly giving them a large HD pet?

+1 to evil priests commanding the recent dead - also, maybe have it be random whether its a skeletal/zombie/ghost?  Just thoughts!  Can't wait to see it happen.

[Soren / Zarathustra217]

I very much considered having the zombie wear the items of the deceased. However, logically, once characters' learn the risk, you would assume they begin stripping the corpse of powerful items and armour before attempting to raise them, and it would quickly become redundant - thus why I abstained implementing that feature for now.

[peluscious]

+1 to evil priests commanding the recent dead - also, maybe have it be random whether its a skeletal/zombie/ghost?  Just thoughts!  Can't wait to see it happen.

I'm for zombies only.
Ghosts usually (to my knowledge) represents attachment and unfinished business, nor accidental undeadom.
And a recently deceased becoming a skeleton seems weird to me. Where and how did he lose his flesh?

I very much considered having the zombie wear the items of the deceased. However, logically, once characters' learn the risk, you would assume they begin stripping the corpse of powerful items and armour before attempting to raise them, and it would quickly become redundant - thus why I abstained implementing that feature for now.

Oh, right. That makes sense.
And finally, arcane spellcasting and evil divine casting could take place too, but i think that would be too much work for not that much benefit.

[Soren / Zarathustra217]

Actually, burned remains turn into skeletons 

[Minstrel]

Do we have an inverse system where if an undead MPC is going to be raised by Create Undead, there's a slight chance they come back as a living human NPC, then go off to live their life on a farm?

Then you have to kill them again to turn them back into undead.

[marlewebber]

Do we have an inverse system where if an undead MPC is going to be raised by Create Undead, there's a slight chance they come back as a living human NPC, then go off to live their life on a farm?

Then you have to kill them again to turn them back into undead.

Noooooo

[Amon-Si]

What does a true resurrection spell do to an undead or otherwise monsterous PC?

[peluscious]

Probably nothing.
Raise dead and Ressurrection only works if the target wants to come back.

[Shadowthrone]

Canonically you should be able to resurrect or true resurrect the undead, but that doesn't apply to MPCs - presumably to avoid a revolving door of undeath.

[Kendric98]

I just want to know if control undead works on the zombies?

[Rex]

Do we have an inverse system where if an undead MPC is going to be raised by Create Undead, there's a slight chance they come back as a living human NPC, then go off to live their life on a farm?

Then you have to kill them again to turn them back into undead.

Heh, I'd be all for that myself, but then the rules in the book work just as well for me but would make nearly all the Undead MPC's....hmmm.....Not MPC's anymore....

~Rex

[Strigoi]

Actually, burned remains turn into skeletons 

 

[DM Tarokka]

Question from a newb:

what happens if, instead of a proper priest (NPC or PC), a raise item is used (i.e. scroll, orb of mists)?

[marlewebber]

I just want to know if control undead works on the zombies?

+1

[dark_majico]

I very much considered having the zombie wear the items of the deceased. However, logically, once characters' learn the risk, you would assume they begin stripping the corpse of powerful items and armour before attempting to raise them, and it would quickly become redundant - thus why I abstained implementing that feature for now.

I think it should be included, people will either forget, or not bother. It makes it more of a challange and fun, this system is all about risk and conciquence, lets make people not bothering or forgeting to remove items a part of that consiquence.

[peluscious]

Looks like a matter of much effort by Soren and little benefit for everyone.
I'd like it, but my wild uneducated guess is it must me a nightmare to code.

[dark_majico]

Looks like a matter of much effort by Soren and little benefit for everyone.
I'd like it, but my wild uneducated guess is it must me a nightmare to code.

Or...it might not be