becoming a powerfull sorceror shouldnt take much effort actually... its a natural progression of the powers in your blood/heritage/freak accident/natural evolution. It just happens.
And just because you have never seen people RP their classes in a defining manner, doesn't mean they don't. And an Application means someone has the right too tell you no, or there is no need for an application at all, so yes it is a filter. It is also more trouble than its worth.
and the amount of casters on the top isnt that heavy compared too other classes, and some of us play casters not for the power, but because its a class that offers one of the elements that they enjoy. For me this is Support, both my Arcane casters are support casters, they try too buff others.
Having an application for base classes will only lead too new players skipping our server when they test out new servers, and it will likely lead too old players leaving. both of these elements are bad for the continued life of the server
Gotta say that this is mostly wrong, and directed at me so I will proceed to lecture.
Now...here are the definitions of "filter" and "buffer" in sequential order.
Filter:
1) straining device: a device made of or containing a porous material used to collect particles from a liquid or gas passing through it
2) porous material used for straining: any porous layer or material such as sand, paper, or cloth, used in or as a filter
3) tinted screen: a tinted glass or dyed gelatin screen placed on a camera lens to control light or color or distort an image
Look at the definition closely if you doubt what I'm trying to prove. A filter is meant to simply catch something unwanted, or divide it from something else. Synonims for "filter" include screen, sifter, and strainer. These are all tools to seperate what we percieve as good things from bad things. And in using a term, you are saying that an application is a tool to deny someone and say no for any number of general reasons, which is wrong. Wrong.
Now, here's the one defintion of Buffer that fits what an application is more nicely.
Buffer:
1) protector against impact: somebody or something that reduces shock or impact or protects against other harm, usually by interception
Notice how a buffer protects against impact, and protects others from harm mostly through interception. This is a perfect term for what an application is, because really there are only two reasons an application will be denied. One, is that the individual does not know enough of the class to incorporate it into what they want to do at this time. This is an obstacle that can easily be overcome with a little knowledge and research, and if an app is denied, and I were a CC member, I'd give some encouraging words to someone and tell them to reapply when they can, and in the meantime I'd help them prepare what they needed. Number two, to protect others from harm from possible abuse over whatever the application is focused on. Yes, some PrCs, Classes and races are powerful and you can make grand "Builds" with them...but the intention should be on the roleplay, and go beyond an ooc sense of "Better than the rest". Moreso, to protect the playerbase from a player who will just break PvP rules and cause frustration on gaining such power. This must be blatently obvious for the CC to deny an application, and even if there is reasonable doubt, it should be granted and monitored in the future.
I'm not saying this for myself. I'm saying this because this is to promote for the server.
New players are going to come to our server, and revel in the amazing roleplay and emmersive world that is portrayed, and if they play a powerful class and want to write up something creative to get a little more "umph", I don't think they would mind.
I have to say that I am rather impressed with the professionalism and talent of ALL of the new players that have chosen to play here lately, and honestly them being here has increased my enjoyment of the server.
And as for the "It's not difficult for a Sorcerer to gain power"...sorcerers make use of -raw- arcane power that is evident in their bloodline. They have to find it, control it, and eventually imbue it into themselves. Here's the definition of raw for you as well.
Raw:
1. Uncooked: raw meat.
2. Power: Unchanneled or unfocused
a. Being in a natural condition; not processed or refined: raw wool. See Synonyms at crude.
b. Not finished, covered, or coated: raw wood. See Synonyms at rude.
c. Not having been subjected to adjustment, treatment, or analysis: raw data; the raw cost of production.
3. Untrained and inexperienced: raw recruits.
4. Recently finished; fresh: raw plaster.
5. Having subcutaneous tissue exposed: a raw wound.
6. Inflamed; sore
Really, two is the only one that makes sense. And I put that in myself since it came up blank. But focusing and channeling raw sometimes destructive arcane power would be more challenging than what most others would have to face.
In closing, Panda, while I respect you, I must decline in the fact that I disagree in your way of thinking. You called me long-winded the other day, and while I'm pretty sure you were friendly in it, it made me take a step back. I am only long-winded when I see what I think is ignorance (ignorance is not always a bad thing, since sometimes ignorance is bliss, or simply just the lack of knowledge and understanding of something), and what can be harmful for others who choose to play here to enjoy the experience.
Sitting back and attempting to prove someone wrong can be, and has been for me in the past, an ignorant thing to do. I'm not that guy anymore. But I do try to prove things right based on the knowledge and understanding I have.
In closing to this long-winded-ness...I'd say applications, at least one at level 14 would not be such a bad idea at all, and would provide a buffer that both protects the playerbase from abuse, and provides an original way to express themselves above and beyond, prestigiously for 20 full levels of a class that is so powerful.
Feel free to discuss guys!
Cheers.
And no, one lucky knockdown does not end a caster's life. At level 8, they have access to shadow shield which provides a constant +3/10 damage reduction, premonition which grants them a whooping +5/30 damage reduction for 150-200 points, and even if they don't have the progression for those, they have greater stoneskin which grants +5/20.
And improved invisibility which grants 50% concealment.
Add that to a 5/ damage resistance from items and you have a constant 15 damage shrugged off after the 25 damage shrugged and 35 damage from the other spells plus the item are negated.
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Sorcerer/Wizard? It's not one....a'two-hoo!...a'three...
Clerics have their own array of defensive spells such as magic vestment, shield of faith, and whatever spells are granted by domains.
And both of these classes can keep their "buffs" as you called them maintained, and after three to five hours they can simply find a safe spot to rest, and "rebuff" as you'd call it. Not everyone who stands out in the night is a level 15 caster, or level 15 hybrid-fighter build.
And let's say a caster gets knocked down. If they're smart, and know the system, it's rather easy to avoid that second knockdown in the upcoming round by just....clicking like mad and running away if needed! (Or holding "w" down with a white knuckle, which is cheap)
Maybe Bad_bud should take all things into consideration before rushing to conclusions.
