Author Topic: Village of Barovia feedback since the update (Read 9847 times)

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #50 on:** July 04, 2010, 12:43:15 AM »

it's just as well you guys couldn't find it, Lockleed pointed out some bugs that made the dungeon impossible to complete. I should be uploading a fix tomorrow

herkles · « **Reply #51 on:** July 12, 2010, 07:17:30 PM »

visited the village recently, I must say I love the new area and the descriptions. I am curious though why everything is locked there though.

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #52 on:** July 12, 2010, 07:33:29 PM »

In the main Village area,

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on July 03, 2010, 12:30:22 PM

PROTIP:

Spoiler: show
Look for an old well...

HellsPanda · « **Reply #53 on:** July 13, 2010, 08:23:32 AM »

okay, I found it, wasn't thinking two wells would be that close too each other

Dhark · « **Reply #54 on:** July 13, 2010, 04:06:13 PM »

I was wondering who built the dungeon ?
BECAUSE I WANT TO KILL THEM! AGGHHHHHHH! THAT PLACE DROVE ME INSANE!

herkles · « **Reply #55 on:** July 13, 2010, 04:18:22 PM »

I am curious why the well is one way though.

Inviktus · « **Reply #56 on:** July 13, 2010, 04:32:30 PM »

Quote from: herkles on July 13, 2010, 04:18:22 PM

I am curious why the well is one way though.

You would think that bringing your own rope would be an option...

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #57 on:** July 13, 2010, 05:20:53 PM »

It's based on a dungeon towards the end of the old DOS game Strahd's Possession. In the game you are placed at the start point with no way back out; it's plot point meant as a test of your party's mettle. I tried to genercize it by making it a place you accidentally fall into, because the one-way only route is part of what makes the place a challenge.

Aahz · « **Reply #58 on:** July 13, 2010, 06:19:33 PM »

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on July 13, 2010, 05:20:53 PM

It's based on a dungeon towards the end of the old DOS game Strahd's Possession. In the game you are placed at the start point with no way back out; it's plot point meant as a test of your party's mettle. I tried to genercize it by making it a place you accidentally fall into, because the one-way only route is part of what makes the place a challenge.

I'm really glad I did not poke my head in to have a look around when I first found the the way in and waited to join a party that was going. The only thing I really wish is that I had had some idea that we would have to walk all the way to Morder to get out of there before I went along. It is really atmospheric and really gives you a sense of "I hope we can find our way out of here again".

Dhark · « **Reply #59 on:** July 13, 2010, 06:52:45 PM »

Yes the place is good , challenging with enough variation to test your defences ..and after while you really do feel traped & in desperate need of escape

DM Macabre · « **Reply #60 on:** July 13, 2010, 07:06:50 PM »

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on July 13, 2010, 05:20:53 PM

It's based on a dungeon towards the end of the old DOS game Strahd's Possession. In the game you are placed at the start point with no way back out; it's plot point meant as a test of your party's mettle. I tried to genercize it by making it a place you accidentally fall into, because the one-way only route is part of what makes the place a challenge.

This is just plain brilliant. This is one kind of horror that made some of the DOS dungeons great and it was yet missed in POTM.

Emomina · « **Reply #61 on:** July 13, 2010, 07:09:34 PM »

This sounds amazing. Reminds me of the opening of Eye of the Beholder.

I imagine Macabre can run some, er, Macabre dungeon runs in there

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #62 on:** July 13, 2010, 07:33:29 PM »

Quote from: Tarinyar on July 13, 2010, 06:52:45 PM

Yes the place is good , challenging with enough variation to test your defences ..and after while you really do feel traped & in desperate need of escape

Thanks, that's the feeling I was going for

Emomina · « **Reply #63 on:** July 14, 2010, 02:50:28 AM »

Well. boy. did I ever underestimate the brevity of the challenge.

I got pwnt, within 3 seconds of opening the first door. Rescuing anyone down there means fighting through the place, so that adds to the wrinkle of the place so I won't be holding my breath. Epic idea putting that place in.

Thoraion · « **Reply #64 on:** July 15, 2010, 10:59:45 AM »

oops, seems i posted my feedback in the wrong thread...
http://www.nwnravenloft.com/forum/index.php?topic=20730.0
and the dungeon is not as old as i thought ;-)

Well, in short: Yes, that dungeon is in fact a source for despair.
But just as well for frustration. Essentially, when you stumble in it without at least as much power to survive anything in there, all you can do is log off and wait for the next reset to enter in your last stored safe location or wherever.

Was that intended?

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #65 on:** July 15, 2010, 12:01:55 PM »

None of our dungeons are meant to be soloed. We have always stated that you solo at your own risk.

As for the one-way thing, I explained above why it was done that way. Bear in mind the entrance to the dungeon is in town. If you could easily go back and forth the place would be a breeze. It was intended to make part of the challenge of the place to survive and find your way out.

I don't know what kind of warning could be given that wouldn't be completely OOC. I suppose I could put a sign that says something about using the well "at your own risk."

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #66 on:** July 15, 2010, 01:12:27 PM »

For those of you able to complete the dungeon:

Do the monsters feel balanced? Are they too tough, or are there just too many?

Is the treasure a good enough reward for the risks?

Does the descriptive trigger fire when you first enter the dungeon? (the one that says you can't go out the way you came in)

DM Tarokka · « **Reply #67 on:** July 15, 2010, 01:21:17 PM »

Last night I did it as Arden (lev 12) with a spellcaster (lev 19). We fought most of our way using also a summon. We got both a series of "close to nothing messages" despite several rests. Not sure if the xps were balanced or not, for sure for the challenge they were not: only some revenant avengers actually gave "experience gained" messages. The loot was nothing I checked a lot, I was busy surviving.

Thoraion · « **Reply #68 on:** July 15, 2010, 01:33:11 PM »

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on July 15, 2010, 12:01:55 PM

None of our dungeons are meant to be soloed. We have always stated that you solo at your own risk.

sense and nonsense of soloing is nothing i will discuss here.
Though, since you mention it:
One of the main reasons for partying is to have someone around who can escape in the direst of situation and return with help.
In this dungeon, it is different. Once you are in, you can't escape or call for help.
I can't stress it enough - the dungeon does what it is intended for. BUT: it is the only one with that special aspect. It is a high-level dungeon with no way to get out for a mid- and low level character/party. If you don't know what to expect, it is the worst and most deadly place i can think of. In any other dungeon you at least get a warning (you see what is there and can turn tail and run). Disclaimer: There are some monsters who nearly automatically instantly slay a mid/low level character without a real chance to escape (bodak, needle men...) - but the dungeon is even more deadly there.

EDIT: The important part here is that no one has reason to expect such a thing, since there is no comparable situation anywhere else on the server (that i know of)

HellsPanda · « **Reply #69 on:** July 16, 2010, 05:08:42 AM »

Blue I think he is talking about the old ML crypt under the temple, and the secret doors too the Pits. But I have always found if you can find the entrance, you have enough search too find the exit.

Thoraion · « **Reply #70 on:** July 16, 2010, 05:36:47 AM »

Quote from: HellsPanda on July 16, 2010, 05:08:42 AM

Blue I think he is talking about the old ML crypt under the temple, and the secret doors too the Pits. But I have always found if you can find the entrance, you have enough search too find the exit.

Nope, i am talking about the dungeon under the well. And by the way... the spoiler blue has published is quite dangerous and the opposite of a warning

Face it - a party that could handle the barovia crypts (at least the undead-section, so let's say lvl 6-8?) that would enter the well can't get out again.