Author Topic: The Elves of Ravenloft (Read 16590 times)

TimmyTheNerd · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2016, 09:23:11 PM »

New player here. Was wondering if Dusk Elves are acceptable on the server. I am currently going through books as I gear up to host my local store's Adventurer's League starting next month with Curse of Strahd, they've been hurting for a DM due to the last one leaving the store. The Dusk Elves (Their companion PDF can be found here for freehttp://www.dmsguild.com/product/177846/Dusk-Elves-A-Ravenloft-Subrace?filters=0_45507_0_0_0_0_0) are mentioned in Curse of Strahd. However, I can't find any mention of them elsewhere, even through google, so I'm a little worried if I make a Dusk Elf, I wont be allowed to play it.

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2016, 02:56:38 AM »

Quote from: TimmyTheNerd on May 19, 2016, 09:23:11 PM

New player here. Was wondering if Dusk Elves are acceptable on the server. I am currently going through books as I gear up to host my local store's Adventurer's League starting next month with Curse of Strahd, they've been hurting for a DM due to the last one leaving the store. The Dusk Elves (Their companion PDF can be found here for freehttp://www.dmsguild.com/product/177846/Dusk-Elves-A-Ravenloft-Subrace?filters=0_45507_0_0_0_0_0) are mentioned in Curse of Strahd. However, I can't find any mention of them elsewhere, even through google, so I'm a little worried if I make a Dusk Elf, I wont be allowed to play it.

Curse of Strahd is set in BC 735 (about 30 years before the present day) and it states that all the female dusk elves were killed. They're effectively extinct.

MAB77 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 20, 2016, 12:15:05 PM »

I would also caution everyone to be careful in using 5th edition D&D Ravenloft lore. At least until the PotM staff had time to review it and evaluate how well it could be adapted to the server. Game mechanics or lore continuity issues may occur. WotC/Hasbro has to retcon elements of the setting to fit the latest iteration of D&D. We don't. That being said rest assured that the 5th edition content will be evaluated and in due time we'll let you know what is, or not, acceptable for the module.

Kendaric · « **Reply #28 on:** May 20, 2016, 05:18:28 PM »

Quote from: MAB77 on May 20, 2016, 12:15:05 PM

I would also caution everyone to be careful in using 5th edition D&D Ravenloft lore. At least until the PotM staff had time to review it and evaluate how well it could be adapted to the server. Game mechanics or lore continuity issues may occur. WotC/Hasbro has to retcon elements of the setting to fit the latest iteration of D&D. We don't. That being said rest assured that the 5th edition content will be evaluated and in due time we'll let you know what is, or not, acceptable for the module.

Is there even any material besides Curse of Strahd (which is basically the old "Expedition to Castle Ravenloft")?

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #29 on:** May 20, 2016, 06:12:08 PM »

Quote from: Kendaric on May 20, 2016, 05:18:28 PM

Quote from: MAB77 on May 20, 2016, 12:15:05 PM
I would also caution everyone to be careful in using 5th edition D&D Ravenloft lore. At least until the PotM staff had time to review it and evaluate how well it could be adapted to the server. Game mechanics or lore continuity issues may occur. WotC/Hasbro has to retcon elements of the setting to fit the latest iteration of D&D. We don't. That being said rest assured that the 5th edition content will be evaluated and in due time we'll let you know what is, or not, acceptable for the module.

Is there even any material besides Curse of Strahd (which is basically the old "Expedition to Castle Ravenloft")?

Curse of Strahd is not like Expedition. It acknowledges the Ravenloft setting, although it does change some minor things.

TimmyTheNerd · « **Reply #30 on:** May 21, 2016, 12:52:29 AM »

Quote from: Kendaric on May 20, 2016, 05:18:28 PM

Quote from: MAB77 on May 20, 2016, 12:15:05 PM
I would also caution everyone to be careful in using 5th edition D&D Ravenloft lore. At least until the PotM staff had time to review it and evaluate how well it could be adapted to the server. Game mechanics or lore continuity issues may occur. WotC/Hasbro has to retcon elements of the setting to fit the latest iteration of D&D. We don't. That being said rest assured that the 5th edition content will be evaluated and in due time we'll let you know what is, or not, acceptable for the module.

Is there even any material besides Curse of Strahd (which is basically the old "Expedition to Castle Ravenloft")?

There's the Dusk Elves Free PDF. Curse of Strahd module. Unearthed Arcana Gothic Heroes (Just Archetypes for Rogues and Fighters that fit in Ravenloft). Curse of Strahd Character Options (Which you can get for free and don't need to buy the Curse of Strahd module), it's just a new Background for Ravenloft native characters.

Truth_USMC · « **Reply #31 on:** June 11, 2016, 01:45:00 PM »

This may have been asked before so sorry if its a repeat but, how is it the elves of Ravenloft worship the celtic pantheon? Their main domains they live in are Sithicus and Darkon, where that religion doesn't appear? I'd be curious to know.

BahamutZ3RO · « **Reply #32 on:** June 11, 2016, 01:59:31 PM »

Quote from: Truth_USMC on June 11, 2016, 01:45:00 PM

This may have been asked before so sorry if its a repeat but, how is it the elves of Ravenloft worship the celtic pantheon? Their main domains they live in are Sithicus and Darkon, where that religion doesn't appear? I'd be curious to know.

I don't think it's so much the PC Elves as various NPC factions of 'fey' that worship the Celtic pantheon.

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #33 on:** June 11, 2016, 10:51:08 PM »

Quote from: Truth_USMC on June 11, 2016, 01:45:00 PM

This may have been asked before so sorry if its a repeat but, how is it the elves of Ravenloft worship the celtic pantheon? Their main domains they live in are Sithicus and Darkon, where that religion doesn't appear? I'd be curious to know.

They don't worship the Celtic pantheon.

herkles · « **Reply #34 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:05:34 PM »

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on June 11, 2016, 10:51:08 PM

Quote from: Truth_USMC on June 11, 2016, 01:45:00 PM
This may have been asked before so sorry if its a repeat but, how is it the elves of Ravenloft worship the celtic pantheon? Their main domains they live in are Sithicus and Darkon, where that religion doesn't appear? I'd be curious to know.
They don't worship the Celtic pantheon.

actually they do blue

Quote from: Domains of Dread

If one were to draw an analogy to human history, elves would be most like the ancient Celtic, Gaelic, or Welsh cultures. Because of that, they usually worship gods from the Celtic pantheon. To be sure, names like Genevieve, Ernan, and Moran are most suited to the elves of Ravenloft.

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #35 on:** June 11, 2016, 11:20:48 PM »

I knew I should have checked before posting.

Anyway, Sithican elves are Silvanesti from Dragonlance and thus used to worship the Krynnish gods before they decided that the gods abandoned them.

Native Ravenloft non-Sithican elves worship Celtic gods, but they are a very small part of the population of the demiplane.

As a note, the writers of the 3rd edition version of Ravenloft dropped the elves worshiping the Celtic gods/dwarves worshiping the Norse gods thing from Domains of Dread, which is the reason those religions aren't listed in the Domains -- they didn't list the major religions for each domain until 3rd edition.

Truth_USMC · « **Reply #36 on:** June 18, 2016, 06:14:12 PM »

Got it, so what domains would those elves following the Celtic pantheon hail from? This is my confusion because I'm contemplating a new elf cleric soon, and I like playing only characters from the core. So I would need to know which Domain they'd come from, you'd think Darkon off the bat but the Celtic pantheon hasn't spread there. Tepest? Which is where the pantheons big but i don't think the have an elven population unless I'm wrong. Am I missing any other native elven cleric options?

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #37 on:** June 18, 2016, 10:14:17 PM »

Basically any domain besides Sithicus.

Arcibel · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2016, 04:50:16 AM »

I have a question people. In this server you have nordic divinities as odin, thor etc... Have you think in add the nordic elf ? and in his case the nordic half-elf. An elf of alfeim(the world of elves in norse mythology) could be in ravenloft, and probably is playing with the elf of forgotten realms.

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2016, 10:14:25 AM »

No, Ravenloft's elves are either Celtic or in the case of Sithicus, from Dragonlance (which are kind of a mixture of Celtic and Greco-Roman cultures).

Arcibel · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2016, 12:18:29 PM »

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on June 20, 2016, 10:14:25 AM

No, Ravenloft's elves are either Celtic or in the case of Sithicus, from Dragonlance (which are kind of a mixture of Celtic and Greco-Roman cultures).

It's not posible come from the worlds of norse mythology(as elf)? The concept of elf comes from there.

Bluebomber4evr · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2016, 12:53:35 PM »

Quote from: Arcibel on June 20, 2016, 12:18:29 PM

Quote from: Bluebomber4evr on June 20, 2016, 10:14:25 AM
No, Ravenloft's elves are either Celtic or in the case of Sithicus, from Dragonlance (which are kind of a mixture of Celtic and Greco-Roman cultures).
It's not posible come from the worlds of norse mythology(as elf)? The concept of elf comes from there.

I'm not aware of any D&D world with Norse-themed elves, but that's off-topic for this thread. This thread is about elves native to Ravenloft.

Truth_USMC · « **Reply #42 on:** December 21, 2016, 11:56:08 AM »

Is it possible to have Sithican clerics from the dragonlance pantheon?, even though they think their deities abandoned them?

MAB77 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 21, 2016, 03:50:00 PM »

It's purely conjecture from my part, but I would say no. The Gazetteer information about their beliefs shows a warped version of Krynnish religious beliefs. This suggests to me that the original Sithican's either had their memories warped by the Dark powers at the time of their arrival, or, more likely, the original Sithicans are creations of the Dark powers themselves with the false history implanted in their minds from the beginning. Either way, a sithican priest of a krynnish god would most likely be rejected by his community.

Zwickelfaust · « **Reply #44 on:** December 21, 2016, 04:05:09 PM »

Wasn't most of the stuff in Sithicus created by the dark powers as a mockery of Krynn to torture Lord Soth? If I remember correctly, he wasn't too fond of elves.

HellsPanda · « **Reply #45 on:** December 21, 2016, 04:33:36 PM »

He blamed the elves for his failure