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Help with wild shape
« on: June 24, 2009, 06:13:10 PM »
Hi
I tought that wielding a magical weapon and activating wild shape would allow me to hit things with damage reduction. It actually doesn't.
Was that supposed to happen? If yes, then wild shape is close to useless against most of the toughest foes?

I'm not complaining or making a request. I'm just asking for help.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2009, 06:49:16 PM »
Quote from: peluscious on June 24, 2009, 06:13:10 PM
Hi
I tought that wielding a magical weapon and activating wild shape would allow me to hit things with damage reduction. It actually doesn't.
Was that supposed to happen? If yes, then wild shape is close to useless against most of the toughest foes?

I'm not complaining or making a request. I'm just asking for help.
Only magical properties of armor, helmet and shield merge into wild shape.

Just wait until you get Stoneskin and its line of spells.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2009, 06:51:30 PM »
That would make me a great meat shield, but i won't hit anything in melee right?
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2009, 07:11:23 PM »
They give you 10/5, 20/5, and 30/5 respectively.
Which means you can hit anything that requires a +5 or less.

Until the shield break.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2009, 07:14:00 PM »
Stoneskin makes me able to hit things with DR?
Nice! I didn't know that!
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2009, 07:32:06 PM »
No, it dosen't.

Sadly, I think your best hope is carrying a Wizard or Cleric around for Magic Weapon every time you need to fight something with DR.

Which is... Just about everything.

Gonna test and see if you can use a Polishing Cloth whilst in Wildshape...

Your only hope otherwise is your animal companion and Magic Fang. Yeah, it sucks.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2009, 07:33:59 PM »
Yes, it does.
It lets druids hit things with wild shape and wizards/sorcs hit things with polymorph.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2009, 07:34:40 PM »
As Zedrik said, when you have DR and are using natural weapons (fists don't count, so creature weapons bascially), you can pierce DR equal to your own DR.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2009, 07:47:22 PM »
Magic weapon doesn't work on natural weapons.

Thanks! the stoneskin stuff makes me feel better.

And since we already have this thread, do weapon focus (unarmed strike) and improved critical (unarmed strike) help with wild shape?
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2009, 07:48:41 PM »
Quote from: peluscious on June 24, 2009, 07:47:22 PM
Magic weapon doesn't work on natural weapons.

Thanks! the stoneskin stuff makes me feel better.

And since we already have this thread, do weapon focus (unarmed strike) and improved critical (unarmed strike) help with wild shape?

No. You need weapon focus (creature).
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2009, 07:50:57 PM »
Thanks for all the help!
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2009, 08:07:15 PM »
Can we actually GET the Weapon Focus (Creature) feats? Or are they pinned to skins?

I always thought that a lot more could be done with the switching skins done in Wildshaping than is done at the moment....

Wolf skin gets faster movement speed.... Badger gets Small Stature.... Panther gets some Sneak Attack... Dire and Elemental shapes get Weapon Focus, Specialisation, or Improved Critical...

As for Stoneskin giving Enhancement bonus: Woah. Very handy. I did not know that.

[Chuckles evilly and plots against everyone who uses Stoneskin]
« Last Edit: June 24, 2009, 08:09:07 PM by Minstrel »
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2009, 10:16:28 PM »
dont get to excited with you dr I can still drop anyone of you druids dont tempt me!

on second thought probly not all of you but a good chunk!
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2009, 02:28:32 AM »
improved crit (unarmed) works while wild-shaped.  My druid Lilindi has it, and has the extended crit range shifted and unshifted.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2009, 03:13:38 AM »
same goes with weapon focus and weapon specialization. At least, the weapon specialization granted from magical items does work *winks* Hence monk/druid in shapeshifted form can use flurry of blows, circle kick etc :)
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2009, 04:00:00 AM »
heh
i wish i could screenshot a bear circle kicking. :lol:
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2009, 05:36:47 AM »
wait until you see a badger circle kicking while singing bard song :p
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2009, 12:56:40 PM »
Wait I thought monks cant multi class....
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2009, 02:10:39 PM »
Quote from: john ferro on June 25, 2009, 12:56:40 PM
Wait I thought monks cant multi class....

Circle Kick is a General Feat, not a Class feat. And monks can multiclass to a prestige class.  :P
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 06:58:48 PM by tzaeru »
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2009, 04:57:54 PM »
Caterina is the perfect example of a multi-classing monk.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2009, 09:11:13 PM »
Well i know that but they said druid monk.  :?
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2009, 04:25:06 PM »
Nobody said anything about a Druid/Monk, we said a Circle Kicking Badger.

A Druid with 15 Dex could get Circle Kick.

On another note, going to test the DR Stoneskin thingy next level. I can't believe I never heard of it. I'm so out of it.  :NotHappening:
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2009, 04:43:46 PM »
Quote from: Minstrel on June 24, 2009, 08:07:15 PM
Can we actually GET the Weapon Focus (Creature) feats? Or are they pinned to skins?

I always thought that a lot more could be done with the switching skins done in Wildshaping than is done at the moment....

Wolf skin gets faster movement speed.... Badger gets Small Stature.... Panther gets some Sneak Attack... Dire and Elemental shapes get Weapon Focus, Specialisation, or Improved Critical...

As for Stoneskin giving Enhancement bonus: Woah. Very handy. I did not know that.

[Chuckles evilly and plots against everyone who uses Stoneskin]

Since the visual effects of Stoneskin have been removed, it's a bit harder to detect.   Good luck.
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Re: Help with wild shape
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2009, 01:46:37 AM »
Derailing here.
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