Author Topic: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?  (Read 2223 times)

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Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« on: August 07, 2008, 01:57:47 AM »
I'm trying to figure out what spell she's using to reduce me to 1 HP. I thought it was harm, but then I was told that that a normal PC harm here only does 10hp/level (nerfed, after Jovian used it to blow Negnar away, apparently.)

The spell was a melee touch attack. The save was a will save, vs DC 21 (which I rolled a 1 on, damnit.)

So, what the hell is she using?

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 10:04:08 AM »
I'm trying to figure out what spell she's using to reduce me to 1 HP. I thought it was harm, but then I was told that that a normal PC harm here only does 10hp/level (nerfed, after Jovian used it to blow Negnar away, apparently.)

The spell was a melee touch attack. The save was a will save, vs DC 21 (which I rolled a 1 on, damnit.)

So, what the hell is she using?

The Harm spell is 10hp damage/per level up to level 15 and a successful will save halves the damage.  What did Negnar in was the Searing Light that hit him after he didnt' run away fast enough. 

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The Harm spell was never instant death even before it was nerfed.  It brought a char down to 1hp and was the perfect "warning spell" if used correctly and the lucky recipient wasn't being an ass by trying to fight with 1 hp.   

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 11:07:40 AM »
My guess, is it's Harm.  Nerfed for PC's doesn't nessesarily mean nerfed for Monsters.  You should have like a bazillion spell craft, what's it say it is?

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 12:50:34 PM »
also, what was the visual effect? was it a beam of red light slamming you from above?

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 12:59:49 PM »
Yeah, beam of red light. Will Save. And, my spellcraft isn't apparently enough to see what it is without items. Sorcerers get crap for skill points.

I've got another tactic I'll use on her from now on, since she spams that shit (and there's no where to run to, since she stands on the portal. ;))

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 07:15:41 PM »
I'd say it's cuz the creature has "ability: harm" not the spell.

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 07:56:12 PM »
That could very well be it.

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 08:15:09 PM »
I mean, just guessing, cuz I don't have access to my comp atm x]

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 08:17:26 PM »
Nah, I think you got it, Knas.  Spells can be added as abilities, so script-wise the nerf would only affect the spell, not the ability.

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 10:42:05 PM »
Well she is representative of a god and all that. Who want's to give a god a crappy level? :p

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 10:59:08 PM »
Well, if you have less than 150 HP and Lolth is (I think) considered way more than level 15, it'd do 150 damage to you roughly which would bring you down to 1d4 HP.

If there's a will save, it means it's the tweaked version of harm and not the standard NwN one.

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 11:21:31 PM »
Did appear to be a will save right before it happened, but she was spamming me with so much other crap that it could very well have been from something else.

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Re: Llolth - Harm, Slay Living, Un-nerfed Harm, or what?
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2008, 12:46:21 AM »
Okay, I looked it up in the toolset. It's just the plain old spell, but given as a creature ability instead of a class spell, because the creature's class is outsider (which doesn't receive spells). That should use the same script for the spell, however.
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