Ravenloft: Prisoners of the Mist

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Title: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Abear on June 20, 2021, 02:30:35 AM
Name: Random Mist Spawns not Spawning

Where: Anywhere the random mist spawns used to happen.

When: Night time!

What: Nothing spawns at all of the spots in game that say something like 'The mists are thick tonight'.

Recreate: Exist anywhere in Barovia at night.

The Mist Spawns that made night so dynamically scary and interesting have gone completely. I've run around at night for weeks and weeks now and not encountered a single one, whereas I used to come across them three and four times a day. They were fun, scary and random. They made traveling at night genuinely risky and I wish they'd come back.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: zDark Shadowz on June 20, 2021, 02:51:28 AM
It could be that they are subject to the challenge rating of areas. Initially implemented and after updates its likely that their spawns are pretty flashy when their numbers have been put up to max. Last time I travelled I found two mist "spawns", one didn't appear to do anything beyond spawn in mist placeables, the other was a singular "Mistling" that came out.

I think there's a factor in play that's reducing the threat, and I think people prefer them when they are at their "maximum threat level" but conversely, there are threats in there that will just outright bully low levels (Greater Will-o-wisps?).

If there is a bug with what pops out along with placeables etc, then I hope that is fixed. If it's not a bug but a feature, then I would hope it's updated more to fit the level of the player who triggered or is closest to the event so it's always a heavy handed but polite warning that the Mists are not to be trifled with at night.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Kaospyri on June 20, 2021, 03:44:03 AM
I haven't seen a single thing spawn from the random mist placements since the time we had the server diagnostics 1-2 months ago. Which is a particular shame because it actually made travelling at night somewhat unpredictable and therefor threatening for once.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Abear on June 20, 2021, 09:48:25 AM
I think there's a factor in play that's reducing the threat, and I think people prefer them when they are at their "maximum threat level" but conversely, there are threats in there that will just outright bully low levels (Greater Will-o-wisps?)

I think you're misunderstanding. I run around Barovia at night rather frequently. I used to come across 4-5 mist spawns every day. Weak, medium, strong.

What I am saying currently is that I've not seen anything in weeks, and I miss them.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: herkles on June 20, 2021, 10:03:01 AM
I haven't seen them in Dementlieu either.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: ladylena on June 20, 2021, 10:08:26 AM
Only place I know that routinely spawns them now is the pass on the way to the village of barovia. Up by the cave of crag cats... Most other places are just mist. I really loved the random spawns that came it was awesome. I had originally thought perhaps I was arriving after someone else had cleared them, but perhaps that's not the case?
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on June 20, 2021, 10:22:36 AM
They’re farmed out, like dungeons that are visited regularly. That’s why those more out of the way still spawn.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Abear on June 20, 2021, 10:50:29 AM
There was monsters spawning that were genuinely a threat to my high level pure fighter. If you're suggesting that high levels are farming ectoplasm and no experience, I think that's pretty silly.

As I said, a month or so ago, I was running into them nightly and everyone was talking about them IC. The outskirts was full every night because roaming around at night was deadly.

Nobody cares anymore, and I've not come across anyone who's said they've seen any in weeks.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: ladylena on June 20, 2021, 10:52:54 AM
They’re farmed out, like dungeons that are visited regularly. That’s why those more out of the way still spawn.

If that's the case, then shouldn't the one in the pass not respawn the next in game night? I've killed the creatures there and seen them spawn the next IG night again (as a different spawn but still spawning.)
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: herkles on June 20, 2021, 10:57:32 AM
They’re farmed out, like dungeons that are visited regularly. That’s why those more out of the way still spawn.
I haven't seen them spawn in Port-a-Lucine myself.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Wilkins1952 on June 20, 2021, 11:17:21 AM
I have not seen them in port for a long time... which kinda sucks I think a lot has to do with the cell getting visited too often by players.. I think it would be nice to see a more consistant way of spawning them in high traffic areas.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: zDark Shadowz on June 20, 2021, 12:13:20 PM
That makes sense then.

People like the Mist spawns so much they keep killing them down to their lowest spawns (the triggers are still around along with sometimes weak spawns, messages and all.)

People ending them means we can't have nice things, like how semi-secretly dangerous Goblyns can get if left unchecked.

Oh well. NCE should give the opportunity for folk to see a few of the good ones.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: McNastea on June 20, 2021, 01:15:51 PM
I haven't actually seen any monsters ever besides mistlings, I didn't know anything else even could spawn. Personally I'd much rather see their low spawn be a lot higher than all that.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: herkles on June 20, 2021, 01:46:51 PM
I haven't actually seen any monsters ever besides mistlings, I didn't know anything else even could spawn. Personally I'd much rather see their low spawn be a lot higher than all that.
In port I have seen mistlings, mist elementals, bandits, zombies, lamordians and flesh golems, ghouls and a few other monsters I think.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: McNastea on June 20, 2021, 02:04:29 PM
I haven't actually seen any monsters ever besides mistlings, I didn't know anything else even could spawn. Personally I'd much rather see their low spawn be a lot higher than all that.
In port I have seen mistlings, mist elementals, bandits, zombies, lamordians and flesh golems, ghouls and a few other monsters I think.

Sure, I mean I believe it. My point is just that mistlings seem a bit irrelevant yah know? That's assuming the point is to make nights more variant and have some added tension/fear to them. It's entirely possible I'm just missing the design philosophy behind it.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: herkles on June 20, 2021, 02:16:18 PM
I haven't actually seen any monsters ever besides mistlings, I didn't know anything else even could spawn. Personally I'd much rather see their low spawn be a lot higher than all that.
In port I have seen mistlings, mist elementals, bandits, zombies, lamordians and flesh golems, ghouls and a few other monsters I think.

Sure, I mean I believe it. My point is just that mistlings seem a bit irrelevant yah know? That's assuming the point is to make nights more variant and have some added tension/fear to them. It's entirely possible I'm just missing the design philosophy behind it.
Oh I agree. It was really cool when I came across the flesh golems and the mad scientists. Things like that really spice things up.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: tylernwn on June 20, 2021, 04:17:49 PM
I have only ever seen mistlings spawn from these. I was actually not even aware that there were stronger spawns, even after seeing them dozens of times. So yeah, they have definitely been over farmed to oblivion.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Kaospyri on June 21, 2021, 01:38:56 PM
They’re farmed out, like dungeons that are visited regularly. That’s why those more out of the way still spawn.

Even after a reset they don't spawn anywhere in Barovia though. Not even mistlings or anything like apparently still appear in Dementlieu.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on June 21, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
They’re farmed out, like dungeons that are visited regularly. That’s why those more out of the way still spawn.

Even after a reset they don't spawn anywhere in Barovia though. Not even mistlings or anything like apparently still appear in Dementlieu.

Resets don't reset the spawn level, contrary to popular belief.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Abear on June 21, 2021, 08:03:00 PM
I still just hope you look further into this. They're obviously broken somewhere in implementation, or the spawn rate has been cranked way lower. I ran around to three Mist Spawn places that I know of in Barovia right as night fell and I found none. I used to find them on the way north every single IG night.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on June 23, 2021, 08:39:26 PM
Has there been any improvement since the latest update?
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Abear on June 24, 2021, 12:24:57 PM
I haven't come across any mist spawns yet. I've only talked to one other person and she also hasn't seen any on her routine trips to Raduta.

I have not had a weekend to spend a good amount of time stomping around Barovia at night yet, however.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Iolantir on June 28, 2021, 04:12:43 PM
The only mist spawns I ever see working are in the Svalich Pass. Usually always some mistlings running around there.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on June 28, 2021, 05:16:24 PM
The only mist spawns I ever see working are in the Svalich Pass. Usually always some mistlings running around there.

If some work, it's most likely because others are farmed out. No matter what power level we put if people kill them all the time they'll never grow back. This isn't a bug though so going to shelve it.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Dardonas on June 30, 2021, 05:30:49 PM
I'll add that when everything was MAX spawn early for the NCE, such as the aberrant werewolves on the road, I did not see any Mist spawns while patrolling through on my AMPC.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: herkles on July 01, 2021, 07:07:24 PM
I'll add that when everything was MAX spawn early for the NCE, such as the aberrant werewolves on the road, I did not see any Mist spawns while patrolling through on my AMPC.
Same I haven't seen any of the Mist spawns myself throughout the time despite other spawns being present.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Iolantir on July 02, 2021, 04:12:17 PM
I'd also like to point out that the Svalich pass was spawning mistlings/hands before the spawnrate was increased. This is still the only place I ever see them, and it's a very well traveled area.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on November 16, 2021, 10:21:46 AM
FYI, we've finally identified the cause of this bug and will fix it next update.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: ladylena on November 16, 2021, 01:26:07 PM
FYI, we've finally identified the cause of this bug and will fix it next update.
Yay! thank you!
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on November 21, 2021, 11:15:02 AM
This should now be fixed.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on November 26, 2021, 05:03:48 PM
Can someone confirm this now works as intended?
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Dardonas on November 26, 2021, 05:14:29 PM
It seems to be like it has been lately with minimal, if any, spawn at the mist areas.  I haven't noticed too many of the "Mists are thick in this area" locations having any sort of encounter lately, even after the fix.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Lexica on November 26, 2021, 06:50:52 PM
I will also add that I've passed through several areas with 'the mists are thick here' and seen no encounters.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Neuwwwo on November 26, 2021, 06:54:28 PM
Same here, no encounters.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Edward on November 26, 2021, 09:39:16 PM
not fixed
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on December 01, 2021, 04:21:20 PM
Any better?
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Edward on December 10, 2021, 08:10:04 AM
No better, I still haven't seen any random mist spawns and I've been checking the spots daily on the live server in order to make certain.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Disorder on December 10, 2021, 08:41:36 AM
I'll add that when everything was MAX spawn early for the NCE, such as the aberrant werewolves on the road, I did not see any Mist spawns while patrolling through on my AMPC.
Because their maximum spawn are not incorporeal undead, but morghs
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on December 14, 2021, 09:58:46 PM
We've implemented a few more fixes. Any better?
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: EO on December 20, 2021, 09:33:00 PM
Another round of fixes for these issues. Please report if they work or don't work.
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: NacreCicatrix on December 25, 2021, 11:24:37 PM
Nothing seems to be working except for the pop-up text. I got one about ravens while crossing the Luna River Bridge, but there wasn't even any mist, and definitely no spawns.

May have been a once-off glitch! Others seem to be experiencing mist spawns as intended. :)

Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Maffa on December 28, 2021, 02:09:11 PM
the spawns in Port work marvelously!

if i might add, I'd set the spawns on a different faction than the local banditry, it looks strange when creatures of the Mists walks around hookers undisturbed :)
Title: Re: Random Mist Spawn Bug
Post by: Dardonas on December 28, 2021, 02:11:21 PM
They are working well and I love them!  (My PC that was just killed by Greater Will'O'Wisps does not like them, though.)