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Public (OOC) => Tech discussion => Topic started by: Heretic on June 06, 2010, 10:26:03 PM

Title: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Heretic on June 06, 2010, 10:26:03 PM
This is annoying as hell.

I caught this: Trojan horse Generic18

Anyone with tips on how to remove it, please let me know. 

I got:

Avg anti virus & Malwarebytes  and it doesn't remove it.


Raghhhh! !@#!$!!!!#!!!!@#!@!

Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Kendric98 on June 06, 2010, 10:29:05 PM
Try spybot search and distroy.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: DM Nocturne on June 06, 2010, 10:50:29 PM
I personally use avast! Free Antivirus (http://www.avast.com/index#tab2)
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Purist on June 06, 2010, 11:23:29 PM
Think he mentioned that malwarebytes didn't help, hehe.

I know that sonavabeach. Usually comes with crack executables! Mistah Heretic trying to crack a game?! :P

Spyboy Search&Destroy is a good call. And you can always download Bit Defender AV or Kaspersky AV trail versions, use them to eliminate the threat then reinstall them. I had issues some 2 months ago, I used at least a dozen tools to remove stuff and I recommend Bit Defender, the only downside of it is that it totally glitched my internet, not sure if has conflits with Outpost Firewall, but until I uninstalled BitDefender had little no not connectivity.

There is also a good free diagnostics program named GMER.

Direct to the point, I recommend using spybot S&E and any "big" AV trial version. More importantly, GET RID OF AVG, it SUCKS. Viruses are made and built against AVG and Avast because they are the most popular and free software available, they'll always have more trouble to identify and remove stuff as a paid anti-virus would.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Kendric98 on June 07, 2010, 01:09:44 AM
Direct to the point, I recommend using spybot S&E and any "big" AV trial version. More importantly, GET RID OF AVG, it SUCKS. Viruses are made and built against AVG and Avast because they are the most popular and free software available, they'll always have more trouble to identify and remove stuff as a paid anti-virus would.
Totally agree!!
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Kaspar on June 07, 2010, 01:16:38 AM
I use Kaspersky, really effective at removing Trojans and other viruses.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Bluebomber4evr on June 07, 2010, 02:23:01 AM
check to make sure it isn't a false positive. AVG has a lot of problems with those (AVG once tried to claim that iTunes and Diablo 2 were trojans :P)
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: DM Tarokka on June 07, 2010, 03:16:24 AM
ITunes in my computer is almost malware, that meanie...
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Purist on June 07, 2010, 03:43:56 AM
Apple is a malware.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Soren / Zarathustra217 on June 07, 2010, 04:59:51 AM
Spybot Search and Destroy is a good call, but if it fails, there's also CCleaner (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner) and if you aren't afraid of something more advanced, hijackthis (http://free.antivirus.com/hijackthis/).
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: jugnaut on June 07, 2010, 07:59:25 AM
Buy TrendMicro, Panda Anti-virus, or another good anti-virus program.  You get what you pay for with free anti-virus software.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: LoLJohnFerro on June 07, 2010, 09:50:45 AM
Restore your comp to the day before you got it. Easiest and fastest fix.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Purist on June 07, 2010, 10:09:04 AM
Does not work 100% of the times.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: mayvind on June 07, 2010, 12:53:28 PM
Format hardisc is best solution..... every other software pale compare to this
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Minstrel on June 07, 2010, 01:18:09 PM
Format hardisc is best solution..... every other software pale compare to this

Why am I not suprised that Mayvinds solution to a problem is to destroy absolutely everything?  :lol:
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Vegas on June 07, 2010, 06:45:46 PM
I've found just the opposite with avast, honestly. I swear by that program. Since installing it I have had zero infections. I have even disabled avast and run other, paid anti-virus and malware removal programs and they haven't found anything on my computer. I would say that most viruses are written to get past Norton than anything else, since almost every prebuilt computer in the world comes with that installed, and the average computer user barely knows how to double-click IE let alone update their protection to something other than Norton.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: DM Nocturne on June 07, 2010, 08:31:03 PM
I've found just the opposite with avast, honestly. I swear by that program. Since installing it I have had zero infections. I have even disabled avast and run other, paid anti-virus and malware removal programs and they haven't found anything on my computer. I would say that most viruses are written to get past Norton than anything else, since almost every prebuilt computer in the world comes with that installed, and the average computer user barely knows how to double-click IE let alone update their protection to something other than Norton.

Arrrgreed. Ye be smooth sailing for a few years now wit' avast!
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: pkpeachykeen on June 07, 2010, 10:42:08 PM
I've found just the opposite with avast, honestly. I swear by that program. Since installing it I have had zero infections. I have even disabled avast and run other, paid anti-virus and malware removal programs and they haven't found anything on my computer. I would say that most viruses are written to get past Norton than anything else, since almost every prebuilt computer in the world comes with that installed, and the average computer user barely knows how to double-click IE let alone update their protection to something other than Norton.
It's not just that viruses are written to get past Norton, there've been a few documented cases of Norton being written to ignore particular bits of spyware from corporations Symantec got a bit too friendly with. ;) I don't have links at the moment, but it's still a resource hog without all that.
AVG is reasonably friendly but not terribly light-weight and does have some problems now with viruses getting through. It used to be top-of-the-line, though.
Avast is quite nice and usually works alright.
I'm using Comodo at the moment and it's caught the few things that've tried to sneak in. I haven't been using it long enough to recommend it, but it seems alright.

One important thing is that installing an AV program after you have viruses usually doesn't work. Some viruses will block anti-virus websites, detect the installation and sabotage the program, or even replace it with a copy of the virus. If you know you're infected, use an online scanner to clean your system first, then install an AV locally once you're clean.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Kendric98 on June 07, 2010, 11:12:17 PM
Plus Mr. H you have to cut back on th porn its very bad for your computer sir.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Heretic on June 08, 2010, 12:04:42 AM
Plus Mr. H you have to cut back on th porn its very bad for your computer sir.

How dare you?!

You just made Jenna Jameson cry.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Purist on June 08, 2010, 12:38:27 AM
Thou shalt never say anything bad about porn.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Soren / Zarathustra217 on June 08, 2010, 04:03:06 AM
I personally run avast, and the only time I've had troubles with virus has been when I ignored it's warnings :S

The issues with cracks are often that they utilize same methods as some viruses, so you have to ignore your anti-virus. But then, that makes them obvious target for virus.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: kanedellesk on June 08, 2010, 12:27:37 PM
Plus Mr. H you have to cut back on th porn its very bad for your computer sir.

How dare you?!

You just made Jenna Jameson cry.

Nah, Tito Ortiz did that.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Darktide18 on June 08, 2010, 03:48:36 PM
As peasant stated would highly recommend Kaspersky.  I have an extra key if you want to try it catch me on MSN.
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Squeak on June 09, 2010, 12:06:26 AM
Generally I use any of the following Avast, Aviria, Nod32, MS Security Essentials (currently pretty good, will likely be crap in six months time knowing MS) and Comodo as the regular AV for a computer, depending on how I was feeling at the time.   The hardest part about recommending an AV is their quality changes so often it's sometimes hard to keep track of.

It's not just that viruses are written to get past Norton, there've been a few documented cases of Norton being written to ignore particular bits of spyware from corporations Symantec got a bit too friendly with. ;) I don't have links at the moment, but it's still a resource hog without all that.
AVG is reasonably friendly but not terribly light-weight and does have some problems now with viruses getting through. It used to be top-of-the-line, though.
Avast is quite nice and usually works alright.
I'm using Comodo at the moment and it's caught the few things that've tried to sneak in. I haven't been using it long enough to recommend it, but it seems alright.

One important thing is that installing an AV program after you have viruses usually doesn't work. Some viruses will block anti-virus websites, detect the installation and sabotage the program, or even replace it with a copy of the virus. If you know you're infected, use an online scanner to clean your system first, then install an AV locally once you're clean.

Generally someone should have their regular AV installed before hand anyhow and setup for it's real time shield, while having a second setup but disable for an alternative scan (deactivate the general one when using the second) alongside at least one piece of anti spyware, malware and rootkit software.

Cloud Av's are indeed nice, that being said I personally prefer to use a bootable copy of Linux or Win-PE on a thumbdrive with multiple Av's installed and the ability to update them via the net.  This means that the AV can scan the drive without the Virus running making it somewhat easier to use and dispose of certain problems, particularly in cases where the Virus file is being used and won't allow to be deleted or is sitting in memory.  You can also download some live AV Cd's from several AV company's however to update them you either have to mod the ISO file or download the new ISO completely and is more annoying then just creating your own bootable usb drive.

Format hardisc is best solution..... every other software pale compare to this

Nuke and pave is best left until last.... it's generally over kill with a little extra added on the side.

Squeak
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: pkpeachykeen on June 09, 2010, 12:12:26 AM
Generally someone should have their regular AV installed before hand anyhow and setup for it's real time shield, while having a second setup but disable for an alternative scan (deactivate the general one when using the second) alongside at least one piece of anti spyware, malware and rootkit software.
But, failing that... :P

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Cloud Av's are indeed nice, that being said I personally prefer to use a bootable copy of Linux or Win-PE on a thumbdrive with multiple Av's installed and the ability to update them via the net.  This means that the AV can scan the drive without the Virus running making it somewhat easier to use and dispose of certain problems, particularly in cases where the Virus file is being used and won't allow to be deleted or is sitting in memory.  You can also download some live AV Cd's from several AV company's however to update them you either have to mod the ISO file or download the new ISO completely and is more annoying then just creating your own bootable usb drive.
Sorry, I'm just used to stupid people. Having a bootable disc/drive with a full recovery and AV suite is better, but not usually as easy to recommend as "go click the fancy web button thingy over there." ;)
Now, I don't usually use the various boot discs I have around. On the odd case a virus gets past my AV, I generally just grab some SysInternals to unlock the file and a hex editor, open up my memory, corrupt it there (SEGFAULT ftw :lol:) and delete the file before it recovers. Way easier than going through the whole boot and scan bit.

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Format hardisc is best solution..... every other software pale compare to this

Nuke and pave is best left until last.... it's generally over kill with a little extra added on the side.

Squeak
But always keep a nuke disc handy!
You never know when the FBI will show up.  8)
Title: Re: ...Trojan @#$@!
Post by: Knas on June 09, 2010, 03:30:08 AM
If you know the name on it it's usually very easy to just do a google search for it. Make sure to just check out the 'safe sites' usually links to some forum article where some nice soul epxlains what the trojan does and how you remove it manually. :P Antispyware stuff is for sissies!