Subraces - List for Review

[DM Shadowspawn]

If you want a character with a Dragon Heritage play an RDD

I'm pretty sure this players PC is a RDD.

[Ellana Twiggy]

it is. heh.  Slowly working her way to become more and more familiar with her heritage. But, she will never be able to polymorph into a dragon saddly. 

Well, not unless she can one day figure out enchanting and have some one better with spells help her make something.

[Negnar]

Well I figure that the only way someone could then turn into a dragon would be to be a full dragon and we don't allow that here, a lv 10 RDD will already have wings and scales (and be hostile to basically all NPC's) so that should be enough.

S'the same reason we don't have full celestial and demons walking about looking all angel/demon like (although I'm sure a DM would give a Tiefling/Aasimar a tail/wings if it was suited, so long as that PC realised that wings are not easy to hide and if see will have ya hunted)

[boompowclash]

quick question: Cambions/Fey'ri/tieflings... and Reality Wrinkle.   

[Tarth]

kinda courious are genasi's going to be added? like earth fire, water, air?

[boompowclash]

Fey'ri will go in without the shapechange ability nor flight obviously.

I removed Kalashtar though since their major ability is to have a form of telepathic link with others.

Re: Fey'ri Alter self, is this being considered any longer?  It makes up the bulk of their +3 ECL... I know the Fey'ri population isn't noteworthy but I wanted to inquire nonetheless.

[hugolino]

Re: Fey'ri Alter self, is this being considered any longer?

Heh.... that struck me as funny because I recently read an article where the writer used the euphemism "alter" to refer to sterilizing cats. That puts an "Alter Self" ability in a whole different perspective. 

[Ellana Twiggy]

I was considering something which might be feasable, how about a wraith race, say a vengeful pc returning from the dead after thier corpse has been burned and/or decimated? Ghosts can attack pc's as monsters, so why couldn't a pc become a wraith or some such if they died? Just a query.

[Psyche]

I've suggested this as a new MPC template. Along with Alchemical Golems.

[BrightLights]

Made a half-elf the other day, intended to be a half-drow. Half-Drow was not a selectable subrace. :I

Is this a mistake, or on purpose?

[Telkar]

I think half-drow are one of those subraces you need to send an application to the CC for.

[Sewerprince]

When I made my half-drow I didn't have to put in an application, this might be due to the fact you don't really get any bonuses as a half-drow XD

But they might've changed it since then

[HellsPanda]

did you use a subrace? the primary difference is the fact a Half drow gets a high OCR

[BrightLights]

I ended up making her from the Birthright campaign (Half-Sidhelien) and used it as a way to learn about another setting. =P I was really just confused about how it happened, because when I made my older character (who was a half drow), it was available at creation.

[Sewerprince]

did you use a subrace? the primary difference is the fact a Half drow gets a high OCR

Yeah, I meant as in stats/abilities wise =)

[Zedrik]

Half-Drow don't require an application last I knew.
They don't really get much in the way of bonuses and have no ECL.
I'd have to look, but their primary defining trait is their darkvision and they start with a OCR of 17.

[Grim]

Dark Sun:
Half-Orcs:
Half-Giant (perhaps a subrace for Half-Orcs?)

Thri-Kreen (also a playable race in Darksun)

Pretty sure those were left out purposefully as EO mentioned "Consider that some races were intentionally ommited because they didn't work right in NwN or because they looked too foreign and aliens."

Thri keen is understandable, since we have no way to introduce things like "multiweapon" fighting for races that can wield more then 2 weapons at a time.  However Half giants could fit into the caliban camp pretty easy.

[HellsPanda]

not really, the Half Giant would need a model the size of an ogre

[Grim]

not really, the Half Giant would need a model the size of an ogre

They could just enlarge the half orc or human model, maybe give it a different head.  Just a thought.

[ethinos]

I don't believe it's that easy. I asked about more variants of the current phenotypes and was told this.

[Grim]

I don't believe it's that easy. I asked about more variants of the current phenotypes and was told this.

maybe not, just throwing that out there because that's how i've seen some other places do it, scaling models up or down for different things (like the cave near the starting mist camp that has the itsy bitsy wererats with green hands in it)

[ethinos]

I've tried bribing Soren or any other Dev with beer without any success. Here's the other thread, where you can see what Soren said.

[Draxiss]

Hmm . . . it occurs to me . . . a lot of those races that you won't use because of they dynamic model issue . . . such a lizardfolk (to make those lizard-feminists happy), draconians, lupins, etc. could use a dynamic model with a helm for a head. I know calibans are allowed to play as having a helm for their heads, and things like tails and wings could be added on by DM request . . .

[ethinos]

I believe the stranger races were left out because they didn't fit in with our setting. Heck, even dwarves, elves, and other standard races are distrusted strongly by the native Barovians.

[TotalRandomness]

Agreed. It's best not to get TOO crazy when making characters. When a caliban looks twice at some hulking beastie with reptilian features and wings with no real hint of humanity about them, then I think there's a line that's been crossed.