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Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« on: July 15, 2018, 06:53:23 AM »
After the reset today I've decided to relevel one of my characters who had wizard levels.
When I went through taking the wizard levels again (same amount as before, only a few points from one skill were allocated to another),
All spells that the character had previously learned from scrolls were wiped from the spellbook.
This is new, as a previous relevel from the transition to the Enhanced Edition hasn't removed any of those spells.

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2018, 08:34:23 AM »
Isn't that normal? It strips you of your levels, so how are you supposed to keep what was learned in your spell book without the levels to learn them?

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2018, 08:36:15 AM »
No, it's always been the case that scroll learned spells persist through relevels.
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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2018, 08:40:01 AM »
Maybe keeping spells learned was the bug lol. Although it seems only fair to me that for the benefit of being able to re roll levels you should face some penalty.

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2018, 09:00:58 AM »
The problem is that a relevel is forced upon players nearly every HAK updates. It would be unfair to punish anyone for something that isn't their fault. This is most likely a bug and will be investigated.

We'll need more details. Have you lost all spells learned by scrolls, or just a few, if so which ones.
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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2018, 09:09:28 AM »
All the spells the character has learned from scrolls, which are:
Light Step, Combust, Flame Weapon, Insight and Invisibility were lost.
Highest Spell level was the 2nd.

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2018, 09:18:11 AM »
How many times have you releveled the character since transitioning to EE?

And if you were to relevel again would you lose the spells again?
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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2018, 09:25:42 AM »
Maybe keeping spells learned was the bug lol. Although it seems only fair to me that for the benefit of being able to re roll levels you should face some penalty.

It would be totally unfair to wizards because of forced relevels sometimes. Especially considering how rare and expensive some scrolls are to find.

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2018, 11:21:04 AM »
No, it's always been the case that scroll learned spells persist through relevels.

^ this.

It's a bug that's happened to a few players I've known even over previous hak updates. It can be a real pain especially if your PC had managed to get their hands on some of the rare 9th circle scrolls.

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2018, 12:24:22 PM »
It was the second time releveling the character, counting the mandatory relevel from the hak update/EE transition.
As for the possibility of it happening multiple times, it did so for me.

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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2018, 12:32:19 PM »
Odd, I always had thought the lost spells were just something that happened through mandatory relevels regardless.

Maybe I would have played my wizards more if I knew this.  :lol:
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Re: Spells from Scrolls no longer carry over through relevels
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2018, 04:59:38 PM »
Some new information; it appears that this only happens if the relevel is conducted via the crystal.
Releveling from level 1 to one's current level as a wizard with the command didn't delete the spells learned of the character in question.