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Ken14

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Mordenkainen's sword bug?
« on: April 07, 2018, 12:12:05 AM »
Not sure if it's a bug or not, but the 'Augment Summoning' and 'Beckoning the frozen' feat do not seem to work with the helmed horror summoned by Mordenkainen's sword.

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Re: Mordenkainen's sword bug?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 12:23:21 AM »
Not sure if it's a bug or not, but the 'Augment Summoning' and 'Beckoning the frozen' feat do not seem to work with the helmed horror summoned by Mordenkainen's sword.

Intentional; as written in the description of these feats, they only affect "conjured" creatures, so Conjuration summons. Mordenkainen's Sword is a Transmutation spell.

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Re: Mordenkainen's sword bug?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 10:59:41 AM »
But the school of magic is conjuration, ingame. Was this changed accidentally, then?


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Re: Mordenkainen's sword bug?
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2018, 01:00:29 PM »
In PnP Mord's and Black Blade of Disaster are both Evocation (like Shelgarn's) but for some reason in Vanilla NwN Shelgarn is indeed Evocation, Mord's is Transmutation and Black Blade of Disaster is Conjuration. In 2015, another developer changed Mord's to Conjuration to be consistent with Black Blade but they both should be Evocation. We'll correct that for the next hak update so that it's Evocation, not Conjuration.

So, long story short, it was an oversight to not add the summoning feats to them but it was also an oversight for this spell (and BBoD) to be Conjuration. I won't for now add support for those spells for the summoning feats since we'll be changing the spell school.

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Re: Mordenkainen's sword bug?
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2018, 11:09:53 PM »
In PnP Mord's and Black Blade of Disaster are both Evocation (like Shelgarn's) but for some reason in Vanilla NwN Shelgarn is indeed Evocation, Mord's is Transmutation and Black Blade of Disaster is Conjuration. In 2015, another developer changed Mord's to Conjuration to be consistent with Black Blade but they both should be Evocation. We'll correct that for the next hak update so that it's Evocation, not Conjuration.

So, long story short, it was an oversight to not add the summoning feats to them but it was also an oversight for this spell (and BBoD) to be Conjuration. I won't for now add support for those spells for the summoning feats since we'll be changing the spell school.

That clears it up. Case closed for me, thanks for responding!