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Cool Flags, Bro
« on: February 21, 2013, 11:43:23 PM »
I stumbled upon some pretty neat flags, on SA's art thread. Clearly, these are not my creations, but I think a lot of them are pretty sweet representations of different countries in the Core.

BAROVIA



BLAUSTEIN



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DVERGEHEIM



FALKOVNIA



MORDENT



PARIDON



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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2013, 04:56:09 PM »
 
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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 05:31:49 PM »
Representations, so they're not canon? Are there canon flags?

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2013, 05:34:19 PM »
Representations, so they're not canon? Are there canon flags?

I think the coat-of-arms of Von Zarovich is canon, but I can't find it anywhere, unfortunately.

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2013, 05:49:02 PM »
They're awesome regardless... could try to mod some shields or other equipment with those banners...

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2013, 06:29:36 PM »
i want a barovia shield.

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2013, 06:56:33 PM »
Representations, so they're not canon? Are there canon flags?
I don't believe there are any canon flags for the domains, as historically speaking the practice of flying a flag to indicate a country of origin didn't happen in the real world until the 17th century with maritime flags on sailing ships, and didn't become common for civilian use "on land" until the 18th century.

Prior to that, flags were usually limited to a particular family or ruler.

There are, however, canon flags of coats of arms for various families, such as the noble families of Mordent.
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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2013, 07:12:04 PM »
Ah, yeah there are the coat-of-arms for all the various families of Mordent, most of which have died out. They're all in Gazetteer I, if memory serves.

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2013, 07:24:45 PM »
Ah, yeah there are the coat-of-arms for all the various families of Mordent, most of which have died out. They're all in Gazetteer I, if memory serves.
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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2013, 07:31:47 PM »
Ah, yeah there are the coat-of-arms for all the various families of Mordent, most of which have died out. They're all in Gazetteer I, if memory serves.
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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2013, 09:41:57 PM »
I have to say the Barovian flag is the only one that disappoints, I expected a raven & crown or something.


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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2013, 11:30:13 AM »
I do wish we could have flags. Then again we do we have the raven the falcon etc


Also blue his first post in this topic made me want post a sheldon vid of fun with flags but I won't

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 01:17:42 PM »
Well, Banners have been used since the middle ages to determine loyalty and house representation. Flags to me aren't too far off from banners and it might be different and cool to have a few standards lying about. I would love for them to be used in DM events such as the war between Falkovnia and Dementeliu, it would offer alot of flavor and generally because I enjoy the practice of Heraldry and Bannersmen.


Well done with these flags, they look excellent.

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2013, 11:41:10 AM »
I think the flags in the original post have a bit too much of a modern and stylised feel, just my opinion though.
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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2013, 01:44:51 PM »
Well, they're not originally mine; they were intended to be used with a Shadowrun campaign and I thought them appropriate. Besides, though I realize they're somewhat anachronistic, I think it's good to have a symbol by which one can identify a given country with, be it with a coat of arms or a flag or a banner.

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2013, 02:01:26 PM »
Perhaps, but many of those symbols are odd and don't really fit (Barovia in particular). Although I'm not normally a stickler for historical accuracy, in this case I think I would prefer medieval family banners over national flags.


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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2013, 11:48:01 PM »
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This is a Cannon flag..  ^-^

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2014, 07:14:40 AM »
Lamordia's flag, using the Von Aubrecker's coat of arms.


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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2014, 07:56:29 PM »
the next time we do a content hak update i hope we add flags, shields, cloaks and surcoats that are relevant to the setting.

Ezra, Hala, Morninglord, Wachter, Von zarovich, the borcan families, mordent, dementeau, etc

maybe even replace some of the existing ones sInce some do not look that good.

i can help with this but im only interested in doing it if its actually going to go in.
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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2014, 09:15:38 AM »
....Well if anyone knows how to edit the files of each flag, we could indluce an override that changes them to the heralds of the nation's leaders/sub-heads.

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2014, 12:05:05 PM »
the next time we do a content hak update i hope we add flags, shields, cloaks and surcoats that are relevant to the setting.

Ezra, Hala, Morninglord, Wachter, Von zarovich, the borcan families, mordent, dementeau, etc

maybe even replace some of the existing ones sInce some do not look that good.

i can help with this but im only interested in doing it if its actually going to go in.
We can't put stuff into a hak that doesn't exist. Someone would have to make these things (and make them well) first.

....Well if anyone knows how to edit the files of each flag, we could indluce an override that changes them to the heralds of the nation's leaders/sub-heads.
As I've already said, the flags shown in this thread aren't canon and aren't really appropriate.


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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2014, 12:19:50 PM »
the next time we do a content hak update i hope we add flags, shields, cloaks and surcoats that are relevant to the setting.

Ezra, Hala, Morninglord, Wachter, Von zarovich, the borcan families, mordent, dementeau, etc

maybe even replace some of the existing ones sInce some do not look that good.

i can help with this but im only interested in doing it if its actually going to go in.
We can't put stuff into a hak that doesn't exist. Someone would have to make these things (and make them well) first.

....Well if anyone knows how to edit the files of each flag, we could indluce an override that changes them to the heralds of the nation's leaders/sub-heads.
As I've already said, the flags shown in this thread aren't canon and aren't really appropriate.

Could we not tweak to add it in anyway?

On the other hand, flags are a pretty "modern" thing in the world to. Banners sure, but national flags was uncommon. I think the first national flag was the Danish?

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Re: Cool Flags, Bro
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2014, 01:01:12 PM »
the next time we do a content hak update i hope we add flags, shields, cloaks and surcoats that are relevant to the setting.

Ezra, Hala, Morninglord, Wachter, Von zarovich, the borcan families, mordent, dementeau, etc

maybe even replace some of the existing ones sInce some do not look that good.

i can help with this but im only interested in doing it if its actually going to go in.
We can't put stuff into a hak that doesn't exist. Someone would have to make these things (and make them well) first.

....Well if anyone knows how to edit the files of each flag, we could indluce an override that changes them to the heralds of the nation's leaders/sub-heads.
As I've already said, the flags shown in this thread aren't canon and aren't really appropriate.

Could we not tweak to add it in anyway?

On the other hand, flags are a pretty "modern" thing in the world to. Banners sure, but national flags was uncommon. I think the first national flag was the Danish?
I was trying to politely state that I don't want these flags in the module. No offense to the person who created them or to Venge, but they're not appropriate, and some of them don't even make sense.

If we were to include any flags/banners at all, they should be the ones from these links:

http://www.fraternityofshadows.com/Mausoleum/Heraldry_MikesAdamis.html

http://www.fraternityofshadows.com/Mausoleum/Heraldry_of_the_Core.html


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